looking for production library like TM Century.
I have a crap load of production music I've accumulated over 40 years in radio. Dating from the 60's until this year. I can't say that I can necessarily put my hands on a complete, organized collection, and I can't even begin to guess how many tracks I must have. I don't mind sharing. Perhaps I shoulld try to put together a "package" that I could offer up to those who need it? I do not gaurantee any organization, I don't have any track listing books/sheets, etc and attempting to organize them in any way would be far too much trouble. But for those who can work with the "shotgun" approach, I could probably dump a few thousands tracks onto CD's in mp3 format and pass them on. Too many tracks to keep organized to try to do it as an upload/download group, I suspect. Hmmmm.
Tim in Bovey
I have a closet full of vinyll production music from Boosey-Hawkes, Capitol Media, NBC, BBC and a bunch of other collections.
Two problems.
I have no idea where the "Agreements" stand after all these years. I may not be able to legally use some of them.
Other problem, they would need to be digitized. Who would do that?
There's nothing with a bigger "grey area" than old production music. Over 40 years in the biz I've accumulated a lot of production tracks. Some were copies of others copies, some are on reels, thousands on vinyl, tons on CD, some over 60 years old, some were buyouts with no specific licensing agreements or stipulations, tons are from companies who are long out of business, many didn't have copyrights renewed when they had to in the late 50's and 60's when this was required (it's material from that window in time that winds up in the 99 cent DVD bins, and CD after CD of "oldies" on sale for practically free).
As a "musician" I also participated in a group of others of like mind that produced tons of production music which was all dumped into a common pool to be used by all who contributed to the group. I have thousands of these tracks. SAdly that group broke up last year.
I know that of all the commercial radio stations in this market, two of which I work for, there are doezns and dozens of libraries in use, many very old, and all are shared among stations as we often share or exchange produced ads which include the production music, even though the other station may have never been licensed for those tracks.
Many production libraries available on buyout plans only required that you were a BMI/ASCAP or SESAC licensed station. Many libraries were available on a trade basis for playing ads.
I believe as long as your using material that is not a current library from a current maker you'll never have a problem. Consider, for examply, you're using a track from the CAT library from 1984. First, someone would have to notice, then be able to identify the track they hear. Out of probably 10 million tracks over the last 70 years that in itself is nearly impossible. Then they would have to contact you, because the company that made the library is long gone, and challange your right to use it. Between buy outs, licenses, spot exchange options and all the others, it just couldn't wind up being a real issue, unless I say, you're using something currently licensed.
Carl- I have an awful lot of vinyl production stuff that I digitized over the years! I used to catagorize it, make track inserts for the CD boxes, the whole thing. Of course, now I don't even organize my digital tracks! LOL.
Tim in Bovey
The MIX collection from Sound Ideas is always a good value, as is pretty much everything from The Radio Mall (perhaps a hair dated, but still useable).
I can't recommend this for everyone, and I am quite unsure of the legalities involved, but if you do a web search for "Ren and Stimpy Production Music", you will find a few leads that will take you to sites that have a lot of out-of-print 1950s music that was used as cues and underscore for the old R&S cartoons. Lots of it was from the old Capitol collection, and you may find some German material in there too. Its corny as hell and nowhere near appropriate for today's radio production, but its one of the greatest downloads you will ever find anywhere.
might have my hands on a TM Century Production library in february cheap.
I have gathered together all the production tracks I have readily available in mp3 format, which is an awful lot of production music.
This is all music that I use, both at Iron Range Country and at the two commercial stations I work for. These are tracks that have been swapped among stations in this regional area, and shared among other stations through friends in the biz over the years. I don't even remember the actual names of some of the libraries. From the 70's through 90's, and a few from the last year or two from my music swap group, in all formats, and in rather poorly organized groups.
I'll be glad to burn a data DVD of mp3's that should be both Mac and PC compatible, and send one to whoever needs one. This would be thousands of cuts, but you'll have to wade your way through them. These have been used on over a dozen stations in the region with never a legal issue, and this includes several 100,000 watt FM stations. I can't imagine in a million years you'd ever have a legal problem with one of these tracks.
Anyone who wants one, email me your address at [email protected]. Once you get it if you feel like mailing me a tip of a couple bucks to defray costs, that's fine, if not, that's fine too. I won't hold it against ya. In fact, I'm quite sure I wouldn't be keeping track anyway. It's all for the good of the order.
Tim in Bovey