By the pattern of the posting there, I believe that the admin approves every post before it shows up publicly. That tends to slow things down a lot.
I never thought of that. Couple that with the bragging about logging IP addresses and how all the docs there needs to be watermarked, I wouldn't doubt it.
The admin and the owner there, are two in the same people. Just split personalities.
Watermarked? There are images over there being hosted by the owner, stolen from me that are watermarked. He certainly does not adhere to copy right laws, he is not an agent of the Government immune to copy rights laws, so, whose to say their part 15 operations are legal and legit? I said it once, I'll say it again, my personal belief is if you turn in a few "pirates" here and there saving the FCC some time, you might get some leniency in return. Also, if your conduct involves stealing, which is a crime, why not break some federal laws while you're at it?
I truly do not believe everyone who posts over there runs a 100% legal part 15 AM station. The only reason I became a victim over there is because I said a bad word. That bad word is FM. Once I made my first mention of FM broadcasting, my posts over there started getting negative responses from the membership.
How biased is that?
Do you really think I expected to be crapped on, just because I said I operate an "FM" part 15 station? I guess my mention of "FM" set me up from the very beginning.
From that point on, I tried to stick to the subject of in studio audio processing equipment, but it was too late, that word pirate was tagged to my user name and stayed there, just because I said I have an FM part 15 radio station.
A warning to everyone, you can talk AM broadcasting all day long and you'll be accepted, once you mention FM as your choice of part 15 broadcasting, you're doomed and it's time to move onto greener pastures like part15.us where bias is a bad word, not FM.
Bruce.
I typoed the wrong post. This is in regard to Artisan's post about screening every public post on HB. My comment was that I don't think Artisan's comment is accurate.
AR, although, it's not on the front burner of discussion at the moment, we were also discussing a possible increase in field strength allowed for the AM broadcast band. How do they feel about that? Don't get me wrong here that that was a major discussion on July 4's meeting (because it probably wasn't), it was a suggestion offered by one of our members in one of the treads here at part15.us.
Would that format (AM) be under a lesser attack, since they are anti-FM trolls and not anti-AM?
Are they, over there, in support of an increase in field strength for part 15 AM?
Bruce.
It might not be, John (lord knows I've been wrong before and I'm willing to admit it). I just concluded from the way the posts went and the times they were published that they were being heavily filtered. You can almost predict when they're going to show up.
HB was the original ones who started a petition for increased AM. It was me who piped in and said "If AM can go a Mile why not FM?" and that was how I started to try and petition FM. At first I did say maybe 1 Watt, but then I desided to try and keep in under 1 Watt on FM just under it because 500 mW would bleed a boombox and I didn't want to bleed for 20 or more feet. So I said something like 500mW to 700mW but under a Watt might be better and to keep it on a Rubber Duck or inside antenna this again was to try and keep issues from happening.
Later it was desided to go by field strength and because Canada has 1,000 uV/M @ 3 meters we'd try for that maybe a little more. The object was to get that mile in Range in Stereo to a Digital Boom Box with good quality Aka Sony CFD S550 or CFD S50. Math was also used to try and figure the strength so we're not shooting off numbers and looking retarded to the FCC.
I can't speak for anyone but myself, Bruce. All I see 'over there' is inflexibility and negativity. I really don't know if they would support an increase in AM power, but I suspect that they would think that it wouldn't be possible. And it's pretty obvious that they don't want to upset the NAB and friends/colleagues in the industry; what they don't appear to realize is that they're generating a lot of the fear and mistrust of Part 15 radio and interference by talking about pirates all the time, while slagging their fellow Part 15 broadcasters.
The ALPB hasn't talked about AM yet. We've barely talked about FM. That's why I have to laugh when there are those who jump on the talk right away and say it isn't possible. What isn't possible? Absolutely no decisions have been made. There are individuals that are pushing for their own personal wants, but that's about it at this point. Again, this is only my opinion, but a lot of those wants aren't realistic - I don't think we can talk in watts, and probably not even in milliwatts, but microwatts (a whole heck of a lot better than nanowatts) might be possible.
What is being misunderstood here at part15.us by active members here and active members at HB is that we are simply putting our thoughts out in the open without fear of being attacked.
Those thoughts in most cases, are simply the membership speaking aloud while we think of the possibilities to ourselves. Nothing mentioned here, is intended to be etched in stone. Those are simply nothing more then ideas and open discussion about those ideas. Nothing more.
We can not help if destructive minded people want to see it otherwise.
This open mindedness, is a MUST, for any constructive action to take place. If we were stuck on one opinion and one conclusion without exploration, we would be the same as the other site. A dead end technology.
I have put ideas out there and some of my ideas were met with objection and an honest opinion for why it was rejected. Now, instead of getting upset, I read the objection and can see the point of the objection and then see my view in the opinion of another member and realize, they are right. One such case is using "community" or "Public Servant" as a bases for part 15 or VLPFM or CLPFM could lead the hobby into being an expensive hobby requiring such services as an active EAS system and requiring mandatory news broadcasts.
I see that point as being a constructive one, not a destructive one.
This is why this topic was created and why it was created here, where everyone has a voice of their own and not the voice of one ruler programmed into a bunch of robots.
Bruce.
I don't even like to use the word Pirate. I'll just say slightly overpowered part 15 in this case. OK Mobile Black Box is a maker of a Mono FM Transmitter that is a lot like the Whole House FM Transmitter 3.0 but has a variable output up to 100mW if I remember. They had a new one that is Stereo that just came out not long ago. OK these transmitters are sold every day. Most folks have used it in Christmas light shows and a few has mentioned they use it for a Radio station. Now these slightly overpowered (Gray Area) FM Transmitters are used quite a bit and even have the capability to be connected to a magnet mount car antenna or Ground Plane. Now 100mW to a Ground Plane would certainly reach well over a Mile maybe 2. OK has the sky fallen? Never mind they are in a gray area and according to the part 15 bible they are Overpowered. No word of Certified anywhere on the container, Transmitter anywhere is the mention of certified (Unlike SainSonic AX-05B) Why do people want and use these transmitters? Well because part 15 rules as they are now are way too limited and some do it knowingly some not so much.
Now what we need to do is figure out what is the field strength of these transmitters being sold everyday and used for Christmas and Mobile DJing (MobileBlackBox). I don't think most folks are trying to go more than 5 miles, but they want to reach a small street, road, or country neighborhood. Too much of the word Pirate thrown here. Its really not my Idea of a “Pirate” in fact I went on a “Pirate” radio site and asked what would it take to go a mile on FM? They pretty much blew me off. Real “Pirates” look at a mile as a Toy a Joke and if you talk about only going a mile your not welcome on their board. Now again asking for a mile should not get you condemned as a Pirate. If your happy pretending your a Radio jockey to a 50 foot radios have at it. But some of us want some real listeners or purpose for Micro broadcasting and sitting back and complaining about what another site is trying their best to accomplish is counter productive. The NAB is far better off allowing this and thus they can be sure these transmitters are clean and spur and harmonic free. Where there is a demand someone will supply the demand. If it were only power mongers who wanted that sort of field strength I don't think you'd hear about it so much on Light O Rama bulletin boards. There is a moral of all this. Why not get the members of these Christmas light show forums into the petition for increased strength on FM? Do you even think we could get C. Crane and Whole House FM Transmitter involved? Maybe even let the makers of Serius satellite Radio's in on it. But if we do make this a reality the new more powerful transmitters need the proximity sensor to tell when someone uses it in a car and then make it scan more often for a clear frequency. If one is not available the transmitter will not transmit. This way there will not be a repeat of the interference issue that people in cars caused. The NAB needs to know we do have their back as long as they work with us. Plus the notion that part 15 FM will take away listeners is exactly the contrary as folks who pay big bucks for a satellite Radio subscription may listen to Radio more when amateur Radio DJ's are on the dial. Again this happens in Canada I've heard them in Toronto and Windsor. More emphasis needs to be placed on that. I feel there is a need for the right away for the public to micro broadcast for a lot of reasons.
... Are they, over there, in support of an increase in field strength for part 15 AM? ...
Just to note that already in the present Rules for Part 15, the FCC puts no limit on the field strength of unlicensed AM systems operating strictly under the provisions of §15.219.
But the FCC has issued citations (NOUOs) to operators of unlicensed AM systems allegedly using FCC-certified AM transmitters who, by some justification, thought their systems were compliant with FCC §15.219 when the FCC found by field inspections that they were not.
One well-known case in point: KENC.
BTW, it doesn't matter to me how unlicensed operators install or operate such systems. The only purpose of my posts is to supply accurate technical information.
The extent to which that information is understood/accepted/applied is up to the reader.
Why do you keep bringing up KENC?
This makes about the 5th time you've swayed the conversation to that old AM case, despite the fact the rest of the forum is talking about FM.
What is your role in the bringdown of Ken Cartright?
I get the sense your righteousness is guilt driven.
Well folks, I'll be honest here, after all truth is better than lies.
In the beginning, my first on line experiences were with supposed pirate radio forums, at least that's what they claimed to be.
Anytime I mentioned FM broadcasting on those sites, I was always pointed toward the FCC rules and regulations and warned that not following those rules could get me a visit. So I was warned, don't do it.
I was never shunned by anyone at those sites, if I said I was looking to be a legal user of the FM radio broadcast band.
In fact, I still have active accounts at those sites and nothing they shared with me had anything to do with buying powerful illegal Chinese transmitters. They had some great ideas for kits, automation software packages, mixers and audio processing hardware. Or, at least at the sites I ever visited in the past. But nothing at those sites influenced me to operate a high powered illegal radio station, nor was I condemned for not running such a high powered radio station. They liked the idea that I liked following the rules.
I never ran into any issues until I visited a web site that was against pirate radio operations and all it took was saying the words Frequency Modulation or (FM) and then all my troubles began. No mention of power was made by me, just the words Frequency Modulation (FM) in the same sentence. NO mentions of wanting to be a pirate either.
About the incriminating name "Pirate"
I can not agree more, in fact one million times more, that I HATE that word PIRATE and anyone who uses it verbally with a pointed finger at another person! It really makes me want to punch that accuser in the face.
That word should be banned from radio broadcasting and called the forbidden "P" word!
Any ways back to the topic, film at eleven.
Bruce.
The word "pirate" isn't the proper word to describe someone who broadcasts without a license, so it's only a slang word.
Original pirates were robbers who invaded ocean going crafts by illegally boarding with intent to steal anything of value.
International pirates were deployed by monarchies such as Great Britain, Spain and the Vatican and sent round the world to exploit island populations and peaceful ships of other nations.
The original "discoverers" of the Americas were pirates sent here to take anything the Indians had, and build railroads to move piracy inland to go after lumber, minerals, anything valuable.
Ultimately we are the descendents of the original pirates.
In the 1960s some innovators began unlicensed broadcasting from off-shore ships to England, which refused to license non-government music stations. They became known as "radio pirates" because of the association with ships, but they weren't criminals in the way real pirates were.
Ever since the name "pirates" has stuck with unlicensed broadcasters, even though it's a poor choice of word.
The ALPB will come up with a better word.
...the rest of the forum is talking about FM.
Note that my Reply #56 in this thread to which you allude responded to an earlier post in this forum and this thread concerning PART 15 AM SYSTEMS.
I get the sense your righteousness is guilt driven.
That is nonsense, however. If you believe otherwise, please post the __ proof__ you have to support your belief.