Time to Create a Facebook Account To Petition the FCC

Rich, I think we need to get back to the topic at hand.  Feel free to start a new thread to talk about KENC if you feel an urge to do so.

And, it's the station which is unlicensed.  The operator does not have to be licensed.   

I find it objectionable that you keep stating (an unlicensed operator of a station) as if to point out unworthiness of the operator.

Otherwise, your technical advise and information is usually spot on.

Guys, there are some decent transmitters out there for both AM and FM.

Some are better designed than others, but may not operate under the current US part 15 AM or FM guidelines.

Even in this topic alone, I have learned new names and new model numbers of transmitters I have never heard of before.

Perhaps, there should be a dedicated page that lists all of the transmitters available that are massed produced and do an electrical characteristic of each and include the specifications of each for comparison.

I do not know if a transmitter challenge would be a fair way to compare each transmitter's performance, because a challenge has already been attempted elsewhere and I see a lot of negative feedback given by those who read about it at other websites where the results were announced.

But it would be nice, to see all the possibilities available out there, lined up for comparison.

One for AM and one for FM. Include both kits and pre-assembled ones that are FCC certified.

Some kits are better designed than others and some look well designed but in reality, really aren't.  There are kits that just have the basic exciter and there are kits that have all the required bells and whistles that make a kit with phanominal sound quality and filtering for a clean crisp sound. That is what I'd spend my money on. Even if it costs an extra couple of hundred bucks. Same goes for assembled part 15 transmitters.

Bruce.

Rich I am not taking sides here, but you were simply answering a question I asked about AM in this topic.

Which was: ... Are they, over there, in support of an increase in field strength for part 15 AM? ...

You only used that AM station name as a case and point to answer my question with a fact.

So, I do understand your reason for mentioning AM and KENC in post #56 when we are currently talking about FM here.

This is a thread that was created by me and you were simply answering my question.

So, I want to thank you for answering my question.

Bruce.

MrBruce You've done it again. I think you have shown the way to a great project, an ongoing list of all Part 15 transmitters with data about their quality.

And I agree, a "Transmitter Challenge" is way too much work and would be too expensive because we don't have all the transmitters and test equipment that it would take.

Instead, we attach stories of USER EXPERIENCE with each model!

I want to start it right now.

Carl's favorite AM transmitter is... The AM5000 from sstran.com.

Carl's favorite FM transmitter is... The Decade Model ??? ...except, I have never had one, but I believe all the glowing reports I've heard about it.

Carl's favorite FM transmitter that he's ever actually owned is... Ramsey FM25B.

Special fairness note: I guess many of the certified AM transmitters are good, you hear good things about them, but the price is so high. And that's the fault of the FCC for requiring pre-built transmitters to be certified. It costs manufacturers so much to certify that they must mark the price way up. Not fair to anybody.

I won't bother now with any more detail about my objection to certification, which opens the door on the inevitable negative responses, so let's turn it over to them.

MrBruce I admire you for defending Rich after my interuption of what he was saying, but then I went over everything that was said and point out to you that he did not answer your question at all.

Your question was straight forward: "Are they, over there, in support of an increase in field strength for part 15 am?"

If you go back and read what Rich had to say, it has nothing to do with "they over there" and in fact defends 15.219 as it is now, then brings KENC into it which is even more off the topic.

But I do admire you for defending Rich.

Okay Carl, I realize he didn't address "over there" in his answer, but I'm still willing to cut the guy some slack. If I had not mentioned AM in the first place neither would have he.

It's all good, we can not be divided here, even if we do not always agree with each other.

Let's not be those lonely, grumpy old farts, sitting around playing checkers okay? That was meant to be funny not an insult against anyone. Okay?

Now, on with our civilized discussion.

Bruce.

Yes, MrBruce. I'll learn from the experience.

Okay Carl, my command is for you to get to work on that list you were talking about for those transmitters. I'm looking forward to it.

Edited to add: that name Schoche is a new one on me by the way.

Bruce.

Reply to Post #62

Carl said: "And that's the fault of the FCC for requiring pre-built transmitters to be certified. It costs manufacturers so much to certify that they must mark the price way up. Not fair to anybody."

I said:  It does not cost that much.  Myth.

So you'll have the correct spelling...

Scosche

Id start another thread for FM transmitters and their specs.

To my remark about certification being costly, Druid Hills Dade Radio John responded: I said:  "It does not cost that much.  Myth."

Let's discuss that. I've held the impression that the high price tag for certified Part 15 transmitters is due in large part to recovering the high upfront cost of certification.

If that's not correct, then I would like to hear the reasons pre-built certified Part 15 transmitters cost so much.

C. Crane FM2 is certified and it doesn't cost nearly as much as the Whole House FM Transmitter 3.0.  And worse the Decade is almost $200.  And if the SainSonic has the same certification and is the exast same as the Decade I'd say its just an excuse to charge what ever they want.  Maybe the companies feel by charging $200 they'll keep the kids away from them.  Most kids can't afford a $200 price tag.  Or maybe its just a get rich quick scheme.