http://www.crtc.gc.ca/eng/archive/1992/PB92-21.HTM
Decade's website also has this info. http://www.decadetransmitters.com/en/radio-licences.htm
Follow up to "here are the facts" thread
Mark
I know it was forever ago, but what exactly were you pointing out here Mark? What proof?
@richpowers I can't see the original post or thread but I must have posted for some reason with links that BETS-1 is license free. The subject must have come up in a thread. Since I don't see the original context of what I was responding to I don't know what you are asking here as to "what proof".
Do you have a link to this thread? But the "proof" that BETS-1 needs no license is right on the Decade page you linked and in the BETS-1 rules and the CRTC rules. Look under low power announce undertakings.
@mark Mark, Just noticed your reply, I had forgotten about it. Anyway, that is your original post from 2017 at the top of this thread. What I was asking is what proof on the CRTC link page shows a licence isnt required for BETS.
I thought the big debate has been that BETS required licence. (This matter gets me so confused).
@richpowers To answer correctly, now in 2024 BETS-1 needs *NO* license. The transmitter certification e.g. Decade MS-100 is your "license" and the CRTC exempts you from getting a broadcast license with them. This is where we have more power allowed with FM.
I don't know what prompted me to start this thread with "proof" BETS-1 needs no license but if you go to the CRTC rules under low power announce you will see in writing that no license is required with them for ultra low power stations(BETS-1).
It is explained here but you have to go down the page a bit to the section on ultra low power undertakings.
https://crtc.gc.ca/eng/archive/2000/PB2000-10.htm
I don't know what prompted me to start this thread with "proof" BETS-1 needs no license but ....
I'm going to guess it was a past discussion related to the controversy over the claims on the Decade theater transmitter site. It doesn't jive with the actual part 15 rules, and it had branched from there into what's allowed in Canada, which is perhaps why you had started a separate thread.
The whole BETS/RSS210 thing always captures my attention because it seems like there shouldn't be anything confusing about it, but at the same time it is.
My current kinda-stance on it is that we are looking at it from the wrong angle; as recently pointed out RSS210 is specifically the rules for unlicensed broadcasting, and BETS is specifically the rules certification of the equipment itself. Is that not what the CRTC says?
I guess I'm still trying to grasp exactly what the apparent never ending controversy is.
Found the thread you had branched from: https://www.part15.org/community/temp/here-are-the-facts/
@richpowers Oh! OK now I see where this came from. And that thread I started was even a reply from still another!
It really very simple I can clear it up now. Decade's site gives the situations for needing a license or not for Canada and the USA with *their* transmitters
https://www.decadetransmitters.com/en/radio-licences.htm
Canada has two sections of the unlicensed rules. RSS-210 which is like the FCC and covers all frequency bands and governs all RF emitting equipment and that includes the AM and FM commercial bands and is similar to the FCC part 15 except RSS-210...unlike the part 15 is not for broadcasting but for personal use, or other use not targeting the general public like a school yard or other specific property which is not considered the general public like a neighbourhood radio station would be. Technically "talking signs" where you broadcast from your house to the general public to anyone who can listen and saying tune to 89.9 or 1630 to try to sell your house is not legal under RSS-210 as you are targeting the general public still.
The FCC doesn't have this. As long as you are compliant with the technical rules you can broadcast.
But Canada also has BETS-1 which only covers the commercial AM and FM bands. Nothing else. And this is for *broadcast equipment* A transmitter certified under BETS-1 not RSS-210(although it can have both certifications), is considered a broadcast transmitter and can be used for broadcasting to the general public e.g. a neighbourhood station.
The CRTC , a separate, arm of the government regulates the content rules for BETS-1 stations (and all commercial stations), but for BETS-1 ... keep it clean, nothing political or religious, and if you are advertising for a commercial business you can't have more than one transmitter broadcasting the same feed. Oh yes also no rebroadcasting something else like a baseball game. All programming has to originate with you.
The testing to pass certification is a little stricter than part 15/RSS-210.
Now the CRTC, regulates program content and to broadcast you need a license with them...BUT!....as I showed in the link to the CRTC rules any BETS-1 transmitter is exempted from needing a license with the CRTC and the certification is your license. The USA has only one regulatory body the FCC and not two players in the game. Hope it's simplified.
The Procaster is certified under RSS-210. That's why it now sits in the cupboard.
I am on FM here as with the Decade MS-100 operating at more power than FCC part 15, allows broadcasting as it's BETS-1(broadcast equipment technical standards)