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To answer Rich I started a new topic. About the power stations, The one that I have is this... https://www.bluettipower.ca/pages/ac2a

On the USA site....
https://www.bluettipower.com/products/ac2a

This is the entry level model as this is all I needed for my application and when you get older, smaller lighter is best. The specs and price are there.

Why did I choose this over the Ecoflow and others? Because with this you don't need a smartphone to access the menus and settings. It can be done on the unit itself.
I can run my station with this for a whole day. A 26 LED TV for an afternoon, a 60 watt equivalent LED light bulb using 9 watts for a day. It can run a router for a whole day if you have a laptop and want internet in a power outage.
I don't have mine on super speed charge, I reduce the charge wattage settings so it takes 1/2 hour longer as this is better for batteries.

Unlike lead acid and lithium batteries which are good for 400 to 500 cycles lithium iron phosphate(liFe PO4) can last indefinitely as after 3000+ charge discharge cycles you still have 80% capacity and most times you charge it is not a complete cycle. These are not the same lithium as Rich is thinking and don't explode and catch fire.

Rich asks about the temperatures it will work at. The info is on the Bluetti site. When charged it can be used from -4F to 104F(-20C to 40C) The charging temperature is from 32F to 104F.
You can also get these large enough to power a whole house with a solar panel on the roof.
I use mine as a UPS when plugged in to A/C and it's pass through but when the power goes out it seamlessly switches over. On board screen gives you wattage used, percentage of power left, charging wattage and run time depending on the wattage used.


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Posted : 05/01/2025 11:05 am
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I should add that if your station has more equipment and a whole studio and desktop computers then you would need a more expensive larger model to power your station.
This works for me as I have a small laptop, Schlockwood, and transmitter. I keep the computer screen to shut off at 5 minutes as it uses more power and if the laptop is charging it uses more power but once charged and just running Salamandra it doesn't use much.


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Posted : 05/01/2025 11:17 am
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@mark  Looks like a great solution, Mark. And you have answered any questions I might ask about. And the Bluettipower looks like a simpler choice than a power generator.


 
Posted : 05/01/2025 11:24 am
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@carl-blare Well, a power generator needs gasoline and is a very noisy polluting machine and has to be outside. Can you imagine a whole neighbourhood using these!

The battery back up power station is much better.


 
Posted : 05/01/2025 11:34 am
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I didnt realize that lithium-ion and lithium-iron phosphate were two different things. The little Mareburo M270 I got last week is a lithium-ion. I only got it because the open-box price was inviting at $52 with free shipping, and because I needed a temporary solution to keep my phone charged as I use it a lot. (I was just going to buy a standard power bank, but this seemed a better deal). 

Although this little Mareburo could power my mini pc and transmitter fine, it's really too small to be dependable, and not what I intended it for anyway.

In the future I now plan to seek out a good lithium iron phosphate like yours. The bigger Bluetti one at $499 appears to be an absolute steal to me, Anything smaller wouldnt really cut it for my purposes (on the boat). Unfortunately presently it's still out of reach., but something like that will be the next power unit I buy. For now, I'm just going to hope my Yeti lead acid gell battery recovers from my abuse.


 
Posted : 05/01/2025 11:43 am
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Here's a picture of my simple set up with Bluetti AC2A powering station and box for internet and phone if power goes out. Laptops have own power back up. I could use the DC outlet for back up so not using the inverter but the Decade uses 16 volts A/C, the Schlockwood uses 18 volts DC, so I need the A/C for the adaptors. The small laptop really doesn't need to be on the bluetti as it has it's own battery but if it is not charging it makes little difference.

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@carl-blare Well, a power generator needs gasoline and is a very noisy polluting machine and has to be outside. Can you imagine a whole neighbourhood using these!

The battery back up power station is much better.

This may be petty, but.. Not all power generators are gas. Any portable battery bank such as the Bluetti or Yeti or Mareburo or whatever that accepts a solar panel is considered a "power generator". 

 


 
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Why did I choose this over the Ecoflow and others? Because with this you don't need a smartphone to access the menus and settings. It can be done on the unit itself.
I can run my station with this for a whole day. A 26 LED TV for an afternoon, a 60 watt equivalent LED light bulb using 9 watts for a day. It can run a router for a whole day if you have a laptop and want internet in a power outage.
I don't have mine on super speed charge, I reduce the charge wattage settings so it takes 1/2 hour longer as this is better for batteries.

Neither my tiny 150watt Mareburo nor my 1250watt Yeti have any option to access settings with a smartphone. In fact neither unit has any "settings" to access at all. 

I am able to power my 26" tv from the little Mareburo with no problem but I doubt it would run longer than maybe 3 or 4 hours before depleting.

I am curiuos what your talking about slow charging be better on the battery.. I have no such option, both mine can be charged by plugging it into ac, or a car lighter or by solar panel, but no options on actual rate of charge. 

 


 
Posted : 05/01/2025 1:41 pm
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@richpowers I thought that Carl was referring to a gas generator.


 
Posted : 05/01/2025 2:20 pm
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@richpowers I have to look up the Marbero to see what it is. 4 to 5 hours to run a small TV is  quite good! Which model do you have?

All the power stations now...Bluetti, Ecoflow, Jackery, what have you, have computer controlled functions so you can set things like charging speed, and other stuff.
The charging speed or charge current is better not being super quick as a slower charge speed is better for battery longevity. If you need a quick 1 hour charge time it can do it but not to do it at that speed all the time. Batteries don't like all that internal heat when super speed charging. It is advertised it "can" be charged at the speed but it's better to do it on standard which is about one and a half to 2 hours, still quite good.
The Bluetti is the only brand that lets you access the menu on the unit without needing a smartphone. That was a deal breaker as far as other makes go.


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It's a Mareburo M270, it's not their smallest but one of their smaller models. I dont know for a fact that the tv would go 3 or 4 hours, haven't tried to run it that long, but my tv draws about 35watts and the Mareburo is 100watt 150watt peak, so I assume my tv would last 3-4 hours. 

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I misspelled it, it's a

MARBERO M270


 
Posted : 05/01/2025 4:30 pm
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@richpowers I wasn't aware of these other makes like yours and others. Took a look at some brands and models and if they upgraded to liFe PO4 batteries and could double as a UPS I would be interested.
Seems these power stations are getting more popular as why in 2025 do you have to be in the dark with nothing working when weather events and power outages are becoming more common. I hear all the time here, power is out in one area or another.


 
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@mark Well I notice the newer models are with the lithium iron phosphate batteries like yours, which is probably why they are offering discounts now on the lithium-ion like mine.

For the past couple years the Jackery brand seems to be the one I most hear about, apparently really popular with campers for some reason. But I never paid much attention because I thought they were unsafe.. but as you previously pointed out, that's not the case at all. Though lead acid is still the least likely to catch fire, the lifepod are a lot safer than the original lithium. 

"..Overall, LifePO4 batteries have the safest lithium chemistry. Why? Because lithium iron phosphate has better thermal and structural stability.."

The thing about any lithium battery though is that if it does catch fire they are impossible to extinguish. They will continue to burn till theres nothing left  -  so they say. 


 
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There are a few newer style batteries coming out that are supposed to be even better. One of them are of zinc..

New zinc battery outperforms lithium-ion batteries in every aspect

"The newly developed battery is designed to be lighter, have a longer lifespan, and offer higher performance. Additionally, two new components could reduce the costs of energy storage and even enhance its safety..."


 
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