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Project Pulled

January 27, 2011 by Carl Blare

The carrier current project which had been planned, has been pulled.

The carrier current project which had been planned, has been pulled.

Noticing that the radios tune 520kHz, and seeing that Part 15.219 allows activity from 510 to 1705kHz, it seemed like a natural.

Here in the midwaste the 520 channel is completely open, awaiting my claim.

Have you so far detected my mistake?

Part 15.219 applies to 3-meter intentional radiation, but NOT to carrier current.

The carrier current allowance comes under Part 15.221, but has a different frequency span. It covers 525 to 1705kHz.

The disappointment goes deep, but at least I didn’t order a 520kHz crystal.

Why did the FCC make that slight difference between the two modes of radiation?

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About Carl Blare

Ambassador of Recreational Radio, owner operator of KDX Worldround Radio, webmaster for kdxradio.com, host of The Blare Blog.

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  1. MICRO1700 says

    January 28, 2011 at 12:14 am

    Clear Frequency During the Day?
    Carl, do you have ANY frequency
    on the low end of the AM band
    that is at least empty during the
    day? Here in West Hartford, 620 KHz
    and 550 KHz are really clear.

    Unfortunately, I have tried carrier
    current here – only to find out that
    my 5 watt LPB transmitter doesn’t
    work anymore. I was going to get
    a crystal for 620. The project is
    not scrapped. I have a friend who
    can fix anything. He wants to look
    at the LPB transmitter.

    The only other problem is – I had
    a transmitter- to- power- line- coupler on
    loan from a friend, but he needed it
    back. Still, the project is not dead.

    It’s just sleeping.

    Best Wishes,
    Bruce, MICRO1690/1700

  2. Carl Blare says

    January 28, 2011 at 12:53 am

    What To Do
    Bruce MICRO please get your LPB fixed, and here the situation is this:

    520 is clear;
    530 has an Illinois traffic TIS station;
    540 is too close to
    550kHz a 5kW local;
    560 too close;
    570 the only choice as we go on;
    580 too close to
    590 1kW sports station.

    So, based on the above, is 570 worth doing?

    • MICRO1700 says

      January 28, 2011 at 1:44 am

      570 kHz
      Hi Carl. Well, 570 KHz is not too different
      from 520 except for the obvious nighttime
      interference. But I don’t think there is
      anything wrong with being a Part 15 day
      only station. Also, 570 is not directly
      adjacent to the locals you mention.

      One thing that is fun to do: Get a good
      radio – turn it on and tune it to 570. Listen for
      a couple of weeks and see what you
      hear. Try not to turn the radio off. Just leave
      it on in the background. This is how I chose
      my daytime 1690 frequency. (I just thought
      up one more thing – if you hear any splatter
      from the 550 or the 590 then maybe 570
      won’t work.)

      Also, maybe there is a channel up in the 600s
      you could try.

      I’m not an expert, but I think once you start getting
      higher than the 700s, carrier current doesn’t
      work too well, but I don’t really know.

      Best Wishes,
      Bruce, MICRO1690/1700

      P.S. Crystals under 1000 KHz are really
      expensive. As an alternative – I was
      thinking of putting a carrier current
      operation on 1020 KHz, which is clear
      during the day, just to see what would
      happen. Of course, this is all academic
      until the LBP gets fixed and I get another
      coupler from somewhere. :^)

      • MICRO1700 says

        January 28, 2011 at 2:27 am

        Oh yeah, I forgot
        Carl, the title of this thread is “Project Pulled.”

        Don’t pull the project around. It’s
        too heavy.

        Bruce, MICRO1690/1700

        • Carl Blare says

          January 28, 2011 at 2:43 am

          Very Heavy Humor
          Bruce MICRO

          You have a sense of humor that runs very deep down.

          You are so right.

          The project IS too heavy to pull around.

          I will PUSH it around.

          The Project is Pushed.

          • MICRO1700 says

            January 30, 2011 at 8:54 pm

            STEERING WHEEL?
            Best Wishes, Bruce, MICRO1690/1700

          • RFBurns says

            February 17, 2011 at 8:13 am

            channel spacing
            It is best to have at least 30 Khz spacing above and below your intended frequency of operation. The list of frequencies your looking at only have 20 Khz above and below. Chances are excellent that listeners will pick up whistle if tuned to those other stations and are close to your location. The FCC channel spacing standard is 30Khz and occupied bandwidth is 10Khz ..even for non-licensed stations such as 15.219 and 15.221. It is also advisable to follow the NRSC curve specification which will also avoid the excess “splatter” and undetectable side bands produced without the NRSC spec which most AM radios will not even hear..unless it is a C-QUAM capable receiver.

            It is also a myth that only the low portion of the AM band is usable for carrier current. My station operates on 1670 and is carrier current feeding the neutral wire and it covers well over 2/3 of the entire city of Casper with a power of 19 watts into a TCU-30 coupler.

            It is true however that certain portions of the band work well in some locations and other portions of the band not work at all. It is best to experiment with a transmitter that can cover the entire band so as to test and locate the best frequency to use as well as the best coupling configuration to the grid based on the frequency used.

            In other words…a frequency of 520Khz might not couple effectively in your area due to the power grid distribution configuration..but the frequency 1020 may work perfectly with the grid configuration.

            CC broadcasting takes a lot of experimenting and testing to find the right combination that works for a given installation location. Different coupling configurations can also lead to the right combination that will work.

            Addendum:

            As to the reason why the FCC created such a confusing set of rules regarding the frequencies in one part and frequencies in another part can be considered as the biggest mystery of all time. Other than a manual crank tuning style radio, there is no digital radio that will tune 525, or 1705….but the rules state those two frequencies. Odd because of the standard 10Khz channel spacing which totally ignores 525 as well as 1705.

            Just one of the confusing traits among others in the Part 15 section of the rules. Someday it might get straight…..someday.

            RFB

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