Radio Anarchy on eveyrhting below 700 MHz?

Wonder how true this is? A free for-all-on 88 to 108 FM? I wonder if the FCC reads these forums and would like to hear what they have to say.

Don't get your hopes up yet, this is just someones opinion.

Mark

Let me give you a clue here.

If the FCC drops the policing of the FM broadcast band and leaves it up to the broadcasters to police themselves,  we're in terrible, terrible trouble here!!

Why do I say that you ask? Because I know personally that Radio stations do not have a clue of the proper procedure to locate a pirate and a lot of innocent people are going to be harassed by engineers who DO NOT HAVE A CLUE about proper signal tracing.

If an example scenario is a guy has a pirate radio station in operation and his antenna was hidden from view, or even hidden inside his house, the engineer will look for the first house within that signal zone that has any type of outdoor antenna on or near it and draw a conclusion that they have found their pirate station.

How many of you have ever played FOX hunt with CB or ham radio mobiles looking for the fox? How many of you tried hunting down a jerk on CB and honestly zoned in on the wrong house, because it had an antenna on it? Believe me I have done it several times. The real trouble maker was using an indoor antenna.

This is what is going to happen when you have a bunch of nuts running around hunting a pirate down. The FCC used the correct routine to track a pirate station down, radio stations being allowed to police themselves is NOT a good idea at all!!

I am totally against licensed radio stations having the right to police the AM or FM broadcast band. They are NOT law enforcement agencies and should not be allowed to act like one!!!

Bruce.

"I am totally against licensed radio stations having the right to police the AM or FM broadcast band. They are NOT law enforcement agencies and should not be allowed to act like one!!!"

Right on!!!

Mark

The fact is that many commercial radio stations violate the rules all the time. A local AM'er does not reduce power at night.  Also does not switch to directional because the phaser has not worked for years. Another station 20 miles north from me operates with power not authorized. And best of all, the FCC office is 35 miles away!

Moral for all you part 15ers is to Run an Inside Antenna or if your bould a house yourself and want to run an AM station have the antenna inside the walls maybe in the attic.  You could even have a hack to plug your transmitter into.  I think its a matter of time till there is nothing left on FM and especially AM to fight for.  Many new cars have Internet Radio's in them.

Yes I remember playing Fox Hunt with CB's and CB Walkie Talkie's.  Sometimes I was spot on.  My cousin hid underneath a car and started to transmit.  I would move back and forth side to side and even disconnected the antenna and watched as the meter went up.  I crouched down and the signal was higher.  Traced him right to the very car he was under.  He asked me "How did you do that?"  I said Easy you just have to know how Radio works.

"The fact is that many commercial radio stations violate the rules all the time."

What does that have to do with the discussion at hand?  It really only shows that the radio stations can't even regulate themselves, never mind anyone else.

And the last thing we need is private citizens conducting vendettas against others.  It's all too easy for personal biases and misinformation (or no information) to lead them astray.

As some of you may already know.

I was a victim of false allegations by another part 15 related website. Here we supposedly have an engineer hired by a licensed radio station to track down my radio station.

Now if this guy is an engineer why is he consulting a part 15 website owner about my radio station's Facebook pages and a Wikipedia article written about it's history?

 You know, here is where I stand, I get called an incriminating name like "PIRATE" and I call someone a bully and I owe them an apology?

Seriously, me claiming someone is a bully for posting insulting names against another member (me) and hides behind a forum board, yet, it is okay for that person to publicly state that I am a law breaking criminal? And threaten me with FCC action? But the owner of that site stands behind the person publishing false incriminating allegations? Then you have that membership over there trolling my Facebook page with intent to trap me and publish my real name, location and phone number?

Unless that person walked into my home and found a transmitter transmitting at an RF power output enough to cover 6 miles, there should never have been any allegations made in the first place, at least not against my studio or my name.

This is what I mean about idiots tracking down any pirate when they have no clue what they are doing in the first place and will almost always pick on the wrong parties.

What licensed radio engineer do you know that has to consult a part 15 related website owner who claims to be an SBE Engineer for help in the first place? What school did that "engineer" go to? And what radio station was stupid enough to hire him?

This why radio stations should NOT be allowed to take any action. They being allowed to do so could shut down every law abiding part 15 radio station just because it takes away a few listeners. I know this first hand from my own personal experience.

Then when I published on my Facebook page that person's name and called him an A**hole, he sends me a threatening email 10 minutes later, saying he's going to tell the radio station to continue filing a complaint against me, proving that he's "TROLLING" my page. You all know who I'm talking about, I don't have to say any names here. But who died and made him the law of the land?

Bruce.

Artisan: Why are you always so snotty? It's getting pretty old.

"Artisan: Why are you always so snotty?"

Snotty?

I call 'em as I see them.  I praise or I critique when I believe it is deserved.  I also do not tolerate arrogance and those who sing their own praises at every opportunity, as far too often these things are used as shields for the incompetent.

"It's getting pretty old."

Then don't read my posts.  Mental kill filters work exceedingly well.

I'm sorry Mr. Bruce you had to go through a jealous Radio Station who's listeners were taken away by a Radio station that may have gotten out 6 miles (doughtful) but could happen legally under the following conditions:

Its 85 degrees all day long and your transmitting on FM say 96.3 Mhz.  Now within 15-20 minutes it gets very cloudy and the temperature drops to 70 degrees maybe 65.  Its getting very rainey or foggy.  Right over your house is a huge cloud that extends for 20 miles.  Your transmitter is outside on a water proof housing.  Its still transmitting right along and the power is still 10 nanowatts.  All of a sudden its raining its tail off and your still on the air.  If you live anywhere near water and the cloud is close to the earth with enough fog the water will conduct electricity so will the fog.  Your little part 15 FM transmitter could carry several miles away.  I have personally experienced this at the school for the Blind where an FM transmitter normally went 1/4 mile on a good day but when the temperature inversion happend it went 5 miles (Just like yours did).  An engineer should have known this especially when you said Lightning was happening.  I'd be willing to bet I could get the Whole House FM Transmitter to do the same under the right conditions.

You know I'm pondering in my head if I actually got ripped off because my Transmitter was ordered USPS Ground to just try and get a Talking House Transmitter 5.0 or iAM and run it with the inside wire antenna running up my window and accross the room to the other window.  If it goes 1/4 to 1 mile may be interesting.  I know AM Sucks but it could make it a better place or at least we could take it over on blank frequencies.  And Johnny Law can't do anything about it because realiters use these transmitters and nowhere does it say you can't make a neighboorhood Radio station out of it since it has a 3.5 mm jack on back of the transmitter.  On Youtube I did find a test that was done with Phill Collens playing and it could pass for playing Album Rock onto.  I could actually convience listeners to buy GE Super Radio's if they can't afford Internet.  The GE Super Radio's are mono but they do have good sound.  Its an idea and I bet if your sighted you could find a reliter going out of business who has one.  I'd ask them how much they want for it and try $50 for an offer.  If they will take it I'd buy the transmitter and run it as a station.  I'm gonna see about it why not.  If it don't work I've not lost more than $50 on the other hand if I get folks to listen I have gained listeners.  Maybe try and get a bunch of folks to repeat my station every few miles and use something like 1610 AM.  The transmitter does look better than that Whole House FM Transmitter 3.0 and I can almost guanantee the AM transmitter will last for several yrs based on what I saw when the top was taken off and I saw the circuit board.  It even has pre emphasis built in.  So yea the bully's could try and claim your a Pirate then you could argue that every realiter that has this transmitter is also a Pirate and laugh in their face.

My experiences with indoor wire antennas and Talking Houses (as well as Talking Signs, which in my opinion are slightly better) vary, and weren't that great.

The only time I could get the type of range being reported by Jeff were when I managed to get the wire outside and above the roofline.  Other than that, in wood frame houses and townhouses, my range can be measured literally in hundreds of feet, rather than miles.

I suspect that you'll just have to try your luck out with that Talking Sign and see what happens.  That seems to be the norm with Part 15 radio.

Well the worst thing I'm gonna have to deal with on AM is the huge noise we have here in this area.  this is something that sort of makes me want to only go FM.  I tried on my clock Radio as well and all over the band is BUZZ.  I tried taking the boombox outside and there is a few places that seem quiet but I didn't seem to get that many AM stations so I really need to get a hold of a car Radio to try out on AM.  With the high noise level here it may only work for FM for me but we may be moving to another location and if we do AM may be quieter but then again I'll have to look at that building or house when we move there.  Now what needs to happen is an AM transmitter that has a blue tooth receiver that you could put outside or anywhere else.  You then could have a lot of range and not have to drill holes in the house.  As long as you had an outside wall outlet you could transmit outside.

I guess we'll have to see as I've not tried an AM transmitter at all only FM ones.

Thelegacy I guess you did not know that that mention of 6 miles was the false claim of that other part 15 site owner, it never to my knowledge covered 6 miles, but as I keep saying, with my station I was not in control of any of the transmitters that carried my Internet stream.

If someone was using a transmitter with power above the part 15 rules, it was not done with my instructions, but, please understand, that the initial purpose of the Internet stream was to feed a group of part 15 compliant FM transmitters located in various well populated areas of my city. We had 7 or 8 in operation in the end, just before we shut down because of that other part 15 websites slanderous claims against me.

I, do not have knowledge of any transmitter that carried my stream that was intentionally transmitting above part 15 rules, I personally do not think that was the case, but on an effort to make false claims and have a reason to get FCC action on behalf of a local station jealous of my station, they had to devise a plan to make a claim of such.

Like I said, why would any licensed part 73 radio station hire an engineer who would consult a part 15 radio website owner (not this site, that other one) to get answers about my radio station's operations? All that engineer had to do was read part 15 of the rules.

Doesn't any of this sound strange to you? I'm not talking my operations, I'm referring to the way things were done by those making the false claims.

You know? Nothing I say, stops those accusations and allegations by that site owner and I'd be dead 7 times before that person would ever stoop down and think maybe HE was wrong and offer me an apology and realize that I was angry because they were building a false case against me, not the actual person who may have operated a transmitter with excessive power that was carrying my stream. I won't hold my breath. He banned me because I stood up for myself and he took the side of the people who made those false claims and justified those claims by stating "you owned and operated that pirate radio station and YOU are GUILTY of such PERIOD!!"

 But I will say this, I no longer own (other than my record collection and turntables) any broadcast related equipment. I had nothing to hide, I am just done with this hobby because it  proves to me, that just because a licensed radio station is jealous, they can harass me and put me and my transmitter owners through needless FCC inspections.

Some people, do not want to have to open their doors every time an inspector comes knocking, because some radio station owner makes a new complaint and that other part 15 website did a great job of stopping that from happening didn't they? Instead they backed up that radio station's claim that we broke the law and that part 15 can't be operated legally.

That is why I said, he did part 15 a big injustice by publishing that crap on his forum board backing up that engineer's and RFB's false claims against me and my studio.

IF the FCC had showed up at my door, I can guarantee you there was no transmitter operating on 87.9 MHz at my house nor owned or operated by me, but it was my studio that they were zeroed in on. My studio location was never a secret, but I'll say it again, it was ME they were labeling a criminal when I did nothing to break the law!! That is why I am angry!!

Bruce.