looks as if the new FCC commissioner and NAB have been looking at axing the part 15 am as part of interference mitigation in the am band.
looks as if the new FCC commissioner and NAB have been looking at axing the part 15 am as part of interference mitigation in the am band.
i got wind of this threw a few offline sources and don't have any direct links to post.
i saw this coming with the start of the ground lead issue and have been saying this all along it would eventually come to this. my guess is 15.219 would go bye bye (if NAB had their way) leaving us with 221 and 209.
i hope they don't eliminate or restrict the rules any tighter than they already are.
15.219, 221, are all the hobbyist has to do community radio with even if limited to a block or two.
part 15 radio enthusiasts have run their stations responsibly with the very limited exception of a few trouble makers out of the 1000's of us operating.
15.219 in some form or another has been around since the 1950's and hasn't changed except for the rule part number. it has always been 100mW and 3 meters.
we need to find some documented info on this keep watch on it and if it is suggested in a proposal somewhere write in to to the commissioners opposing such a move.
i got wind of this threw a few offline sources and don't have any direct links to post.
That's a hell of a thing to be saying.
What kind of offline sources?
Some one could be just yanking your chain to get a rise out of you..
To make a post like that and back it up only with some vague reference to some unspecified unknown sources -- Well, that's just not cool.
Interesting that the original poster replied to his own opening post in this thread less than 30 minutes after he posted it, focusing exclusively on unlicensed AM/FM operations allowed under Part 15.
However the focus of the FCC may be most directed at non-compliance with Part 15 by more widely distributed, local interference sources -- such as SCR light dimmers, switching power supplies, DSL, etc.
That could provide a much larger benefit both to licensed, and unlicensed AM broadcasters.
Mr. kc8gpd said
"looks as if the new FCC commissioner and NAB have been looking at axing the part 15 am as part of interference mitigation in the am band.
"i got wind of this threw a few offline sources and don't have any direct links to post."
Offline could be a neighbor, a bagger at the grocery store, a taxi driver, a newspaper or a prophecy from god.
A few offline sources could be any several of them, and how many sources were there?
Did they specifically say that the new commissioner and the NAB were making these plans?
Did the few sources mention their sources? Maybe they saw it online. Maybe you could go back and talk to them again and get more details.
This is too serious to just leave it as it is.
At least describe these sources in general terms, you don't need to give their names..... are they in the radio business? We would they tell you about it?
Why can't your sources be named. Are they afraid of ending up with Bradley Manning?
Highly unlikely - I have friends who are FCC attorneys - this will never happen....
They'd have to serve NOALs to a bunch of kids with radio shack kits, moms with baby monitors and more ridiculous stuff ... and expect a few manufacturers would be put out of biz...
Never ever gonna happen... ever.... never.
I'll eat a bug if it does.
What we have to fear - and it too is really not much of a fear at all... is that the FCC will allow a blanket, across the board, power increase for all AM stations due to tons more noise than 40 years ago. One of the commissioners is going around saying that he wants to improve the AM band and that is what he proposes.
However....
AM stations are owned by guys who can't afford to pay for more power. New equipment, etc is what is holding up IBOC (or really IBAC) from implementing all over. Who can afford to do it? The big groups who own the biggest stations are the only ones... however...
There are ALOT of little guys... and religious groups and more, who don't think more signal is needed and would MUCH rather relocate their programming to an FM translator than ever invest a dime improving their AM facilities.
That said, we have nothing to fear. And if we did it would be years and years away... even if they pass a blanket power increase passed by the FCC tomorrow. Your local station just probably doesn't have a new transmitter or amp in their budget and will drag their feet until they HAVE to upgrade. After a bunch of noise, they probably wouldn't have to in the end.
I should know, I once owned a full-power 1kW AM that I upgraded to 10kW... well, at least on paper.... then I sold it before I had to order the transmitter and watch my $400 power bill go up 6-8 fold. Just upgraded to sell it... and the new owner took another 5 years upgrading it. Once he did, he broadcast for about a year before having to file an STA to go silent. Full power AM ain't cheap....
The only thing that I can
think of that's going on
right now - is this:
If I read what I saw
correctly, there is an
FCC commissioner who wants
to "improve the AM BCB,"
- and I guess he is looking
for ideas and wants "action"
to "start" by the beginning
of 2014?????
I don't remember where I saw
it and I am sorry for that.
It was a link that somebody here
had put up. Does anybody remember?
There was something about Ibiquity
testing some AM BCB stations with
a completely digital transmission
format. Now that I really think
of it, I think this has been
covered before on Part 15.US.
If I am right about what I read, I
still think it's utter goofiness.
And I don't think it will affect us.
I don't even really know if this
thing I read is even relevant to
THIS thread - I just threw it in.
Whatever comes out of any of this -
I don't care. I am going to
enjoy Part 15 and my life.
I am finding out that life really
is too short. I'm talking about
my Father's life - not my life - but
my Dad's pretty sick - and I just hope
he gets better.
Enjoy your life. (Here comes the DOG RADIO
stupid joke (are you ready?))
Enjoy your life one day at a time.
Be thankful for getting up in the
morning. (OK - are you ready for
the dumb part?)
Because a gigantic blimp might fall
on you.
Crummy humor, but humor nevertheless.
(From the old DOG RADIO BOOK OF STUPID
SAYINGS AND JOKES.)
Bruce, W 60 HZ, Etc.
Perhaps this thread is the result of my post of information from a recent Radio World Reader Forum article.
In that article the individual quoted comments from the FCC Chairman regarding changes to help the AM band. The writers comment was to the fact that tighter restrictions of unlicensed devices along with higher power for AM's may be needed.
My comment to that was are they looking at us.
I am inclined to believe that MRAM's take on this scare is the correct one, in which he quotes from a guy's printed column...
"The writers comment was to the fact that tighter restrictions of unlicensed devices along with higher power for AM's may be needed"
The key in that quote is the words "may be needed".
That means it's only a suggestion, probably even less than that, it probably amounts to "saying the obvious".
Such "speeches" and "writings" come and go all the time and are soon forgotten. There is no implied threat to 15.219.
And with our specialized knowledge we know that boosting the power of licensed stations opens up a mess of problems that I doubt the FCC will ever dare encounter.
We know that noise causing devices are a huge market, much larger than AM broadcasting itself, and will continue with the LED high-efficiency lights and all.
Some conversations are part of the static.
