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 MICRO1700
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After talking about FM radio history on

another thread - that is - the old prewar

FM band that ran from about 42 to 50 MHz -

I made a connection to something else.

That something else is Lafayette Radio Electronics.

How did it happen?

Well, the other thread concerns a memorial broadcast

about the inventor of FM radio - Major Edwin Armstrong -

and the beginnning of FM radio. 

The memorial broadcast was on WFDU in Teaneck, New Jersey on 89.1 MHz

back in the year 2005.  It also was on a special memorial station

in the prewar FM band on 42.8 MHz.  (Some other members of the

Part 15. US group put up some great info on this event.)

According to known reception reports, 61 people heard the 42.8 FM

wideband FM station memorial station in 2005. 

But what were all of these "DX listeners" using to hear the wideband

FM broadcasts in the 30 to 50 MHz public service region?

Well, a few people actually had vintage 42 to 48 MHz consumer

prewar FM radios that were still operating, even then in 2005, and

these radios worked for wideband FM, just like or similar to our

radios that use 88 to 108 MHz now.   

Some people used scanners in the narrow band mode and listened to

the 42.8 MHz programs - but of course the reception was very distorted.

And some people used really good VHF/UHF communications receivers, such

as the ICOM IC-7000. 

But - and here's the Lafayette connection: One listener heard the 42.8 MHz

station on a Lafayette Radio Electronics public service tunable receiver. 

And this receiver was a PB-50.  This receiving location was on Mount

Greylock in Massachusetts - 140 miles away from the Alpine, NJ 42.8 transmitter!

As far as everbody knows - this was the furthest receiving

station to hear the 42.8 signal!  There was probably an external antenna

used, but that old PB-50 radio sure held up!  And that's pretty good for a receiver

that was (at the time) about 35 years old or more (I think.)   I cannot find a

picture of a PB-50 anywhere on the net, but I'm

assumming it was (is) a dedicated 30 to 50 MHz tunable receiver. 

And what year was this unknown gem made?  Who knows?  Sometime in the 1960s I guess. 

I find this interesting because I own a Lafayette PF-300 tunable receiver

which covers 30 to 50, 144 to 174, and 450 to 470 MHz.  My PF-300 is

built like a tank and still works very well.  It has SO-239 jacks on the

back - one for each band.  This radio was made to connect to a roof

antenna system.  It was a serious monitor receiver - and not just a

toy.  Even all of the lights on the front panel still work.

How do most of us remember Lafayette radio on this board?  Well, I guess

from the old CB radios we owned back then - Part 15 transmitters

like the (dangerous) KT-195,  and the (really deadly) 99-1077

phono oscillator - and some cool shortwave receivers (regen and superhet.)

Carl owns a Lafayette audio generator, and

some of us have other Lafayette equipment. 

Information about Lafayette equipment is scattered around the net in

different places.  I remember Lafayette CB radios, such as the moblie

CB HB-555, and the Comstat (?) HE-20A CB base rig.  I also remember some

other CB radios, and another VHF monitor receiver, which I think was

the PB-150 (?)  Whatever that great radio was, It heard 144 to 174 MHz

and was not transistorized.  It had vacuum tubes, and I remember seeing

a nuvister (?) inside it. 

Also, a friend of mine had a Lafayette FM stereo receiver in about 1970. 

It was a great FM DX radio - much much better than anything else I

had seen at the time - except the Heathkit AR-15.

And - - Lafayette aquired KnightKit, right? - that's a whole other chapter

to the story.

One more Lafayette CB radio mystery. 

In 1966, a bunch of us on Brookcourt and Courtbrook road had Radio Shack

Space Patrol walkie talkies.  These simple 3 transistor CB walkie talkies

went nowhere.  You could shout a greater distance than these regen

CB walkie talkies could communicate.  Soon after: one of us came up

with a new idea, and I cannot figure out how he made the determination.

Which was:  (And I quote)  "ï want to get a really good CB walkie talkie.

One that can go 2 miles."  As said by Butch down the street.  (The names

have been changed to protect the people who don't have memories anymore.)

Butch and another guy Reg went to Lafayette and purchased 100 mW CB handhelds.

3 channels, channel 10 supplied.  They went on to add channels 11 and 14.

i cannot remember the model designations of these radios.  This was about 1968. 

At the same

time, I purchased a Radio Shack TRC-22, a 100 mW CB "HT" - a 2 channel radio -

which was supplied with channel 11.  I added channel 14.  (I have mentioned

this radio in the past - I'm still trying to aquire another one - mine is long gone.

Here's the thing - the Lafayette CB walkie talkies were superior to my

Radio Shack TRC-22.  Both brands were about $30.00.  My TRC-22

broke almost immediately, but the Lafayette radios kept going and

going and going.  And of course - none of these radios went 2 miles.

What a goofy "idea/goal" for that kind of rig in a crowded neighborhood 

with lots of interference from Hartford, CT, just nearby.  

Óne more thing about Lafayette walkie talkies, when these radios

went to 49 MHz in about 1979, Lafayette started making serious

nicely engineered metal cased walkie talkies for this band, with 

battery strength meters on the case, and other goodies (which

I don't remember.) 

Soon after that, Lafayette Radio went down the drain.  That's a whole

other subject.  

Anyway, I know we have touched upon this before, but does anybody

else here have info on Lafayette and it's electronics gear?  Maybe we

could eventually make a list, or something like that.  

Bruce, DOGRADIO 


 
Posted : 25/03/2014 6:10 pm
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Earlier this evening KDX carried the current edition of Allan Weiner Worldwide, the weekly radio program done by the owner of WBCQ The Planet on his shortwave stations from Monticello, Maine.

Allan got into a fairly lengthy discussion about the Layfayette Stores where he and his father hung out, looking at new products, getting new kits to build, and lounging in the stereo room with very sophisticated amplifiers and speakers.

You can go looking for the show on the WBCQ website, or maybe I'll run the Layfayette section on the LPH.

I love my Layfayette Audio Generator, and I did upgrade it by coverting the unbalanced output to 600 ohms balanced with a professional Jenson transformer.

It is still using the original tubes and produces a fine sine or square wave.

During those great years in the late 1950s and early 1950s when I ran a Knight Kit on the 3rd floor of the house trying to reach Patricia's house down the street, I walked one block to Layfayette Avenue where I took the Layfayette bus on the way to high school or other destinations.

I cannot remember a Layfayette Store, but we had Allied Radio Stores and a local electronics store called Walter-Ashe which were fun to visit.

No doubt about it, everything some of us are doing now started in those years back in the 60s or maybe 70s and we've never found anything more fun, although girls (women) still rate.


 
Posted : 25/03/2014 6:30 pm
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Very cool, Carl.  I have to go now,

but i will check it out. 

I'll probably have a few more comments

later on - I think there were some

misprints in this first "Lafayette" message

that I put up.  Sorry about that.

Best wishes to you and all the gang:

Bruce, DOGRADIO

P.S.  It's neat that Alan over at WBCQ

just mentioned Lafayette on his show!

Man, I wish I had HIS knowledge.


 
Posted : 25/03/2014 7:06 pm
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Last night around midnight I was adding a whole flood of Lafayette memories when I was suddenly locked out and this whole website went into a brain freeze (Bandwidth Exceeded). The site just came back after about 12 hours.

I'll try again later to recapture everything I was typing about when I got kicked out.


 
Posted : 26/03/2014 8:21 am
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The reason the bus route was named "Lafayette" was because it ran on Lafayette Avenue and took me to high school except when I was going to Jeanne Beermans house, whose parents were both at work, and I helped with house sitting.

We may not have had a Lafayette Store but there was an Allied Store and I think that's where I got my Lafayette Audio Generator which still has the original tubes.

I improved the un-balanced output of the generator by installing a professional Jenson transformer for 600 ohms balanced output.

I went a little wild with Eico kits, building two phono preamps, an AM tuner, FM tuner and 50 Watt power amp. Where are they now? I may have left them on the bus.

From Heathkit I built a 35 Watt power amp but never built the color TV kit nor did I install the garage door opener kit, so they may still be in a box in someone else's house.

Two Grommes 10 Watt power amplifiers and about three different Knight kit phono oscillators, all missing.

On the other hand all those kits might be fine, it might be me that's missing.

The last time I posted this message the entire website broke, so here goes again...


 
Posted : 26/03/2014 10:48 am
 Anonymous
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The last time I posted this message the entire website broke, so here goes again...

I knew it was you.. why are you trying to do it again?


 
Posted : 26/03/2014 10:55 am
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In the day when FM DX radios were just

a distant dream for me, I had heard that

the Eico FM tuner was a pretty good DX machine.

My dad built a Heathkit color TV and it worked great.

BUT he couldn't afford to get the wooden cabinet for it.

So it sat in the corner of the living room, fairly safe in a

corner.  One day my mother wanted to take a picture of

Mrs. Blatworth, our nieghbor.  She couldn't get all of Mrs.

Blatworth in the view finder. 

I was in another room.  I remember hearing, "Go back Velma.

Velma go back.  A little bit more, a little bit more... - that's it

Velma, you're almost there - "

CRASH

Our neighbor Velma Blatworth had

fallen into the front of the TV and bent

up the chromanance circuit board. 

It could have been MUCH MUCH worse.

(Again, the names have been changed

to protect those that can't remember

back that far.  In fact, my mother's real

name is Gully Josephene El Trapp.)

Bruce, DOGRADIO


 
Posted : 26/03/2014 3:14 pm
 Anonymous
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About 10 years ago I took 2 nice

Panaxis AM-100 100mW am transmitters

and put them in a place where they would

ALWAYS BE SAFE.

Yup, they sure are. 

Somewhere...    Where?????

Bruce, DOGRADIO


 
Posted : 26/03/2014 3:18 pm
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