Thank you Druid Hills for bringing this FCC Notice which we haven't seen for awhile.

Note how the document refers to LOW POWER BROADCASTING, a misunderstander's claim that part 15 radio is not broadcasting is where the morph began in the first thread.

RE: The earlier posts in this thread...

That document is a Public Notice (only).

Do you also claim the "Approx. Maximum Coverage Radius" for unlicensed AM operation as being "200 feet" as shown in that Notice?

Rich does have a point, remember in public notices like this the FCC tends to use layman's terms.

While the FCC may use terms such as "broadcasters" to describe our operations, they obviously see us on a completely different level than licensed broadcasters. A more appropriate term would be microcaster, or in technical terms - intentional radiator.

Mighty said: "Rich does have a point."

What "point" did Rich make?

He merely posted a question.

Questions don't make points.

WAIT A MINUTE... HOLD ON

Rich also said, "That document is a Public Notice (only)."

Does it make a "point" to say that?" If so I don't know what point that makes.

I'm thinking...

Mighty's words being digested: "Rich does have a point, remember in public notices like this the FCC tends to use layman's terms."

Umm, "broadcasters" is a layman's term? "200-feet" is a layman's term?

I, I, I'm just am not sure what anyone is saying.

"Intentional radiator" is a technical term, but describes a piece of equipment and not an operator.

What "point" did Rich make?  He merely posted a question.

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A question to which no-one (so far) has responded with their answer.

I say yes to all the questions Carl asked. That document is a generalization intended to oversimplify the rules and regulations for easy understanding.

By strict definition we are indeed broadcasters however. Classic interpretation had been "broadcast" covers a large or broad area, which we do not. We had been at one time called microcasters, micro stations, ect. Personally I prefer microcaster, I do not operate a broadcast radio station. Local service station sounds even better.

Anyone care to answer my question?

I figured the answer was obvious, nobody thinks our systems are limited to 200 feet.

 "Approx. Maximum Coverage Radius" for unlicensed AM operation as being "200 feet" and beyond..

In #3 Member Rich posts: "Do you also claim the "Approx. Maximum Coverage Radius" for unlicensed AM operation as being "200 feet" as shown in that Notice?"

At that particular place in the thread Member Rich was specifically asking the poster of the FCC Public Notice (Mr. Druid Hills).

In # 8 Member Rich expanded his question to include anyone.

In #9 Mighty 1650 responds to what may have seemed like a rhetorical question by indicating the answer was obvious.

In # 10 Rich Powers calls our attention to the FCC's mention of "200-feet" as being approximate, which makes the 200-foot reference no more than a ball park estimate.

Overall Mighty 1650 pegged it when he suggested the Public Notice was worded for the layman.

I would add that the novice firing up a part 15 AM transmitter for the first time would probably get about 200-feet, lacking knowledge about building an advanced antenna with (legal) ground radials.

As someone else said, the 200-feet limitation isn't written into the part 15 rules.

I figured the answer was obvious, nobody thinks our systems are limited to 200 feet.

Then apparently they didn't read, didn't comprehend, or didn't accept the text of FCC Public Notice 14089.

In any case, the FCC staff that published PN 14089 did not say that Part 15 AM systems are/will be LIMITED to a 200-foot radius, but that 200 feet is their "average maximum" coverage radius.

But if that PN was technically valid, it would not allow for the useful groundwave fields that can be produced at radii of several thousand feet by an unlicensed AM setup fully compliant with FCC §15.219.

That's the answer I was hoping for in response to my question in Reply 3 above.

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PS to Mr Blare, re his post here in Reply 11:

In #3 Member Rich posts: "Do you also claim the "Approx. Maximum Coverage Radius" for unlicensed AM operation as being "200 feet" as shown in that Notice?"

At that particular place in the thread Member Rich was specifically asking the poster of the FCC Public Notice (Mr. Druid Hills).

WRONG.  My post in reply 3 was addressed specifically to you, Mr Blare. 

Look at the subject line of that Reply 3, which was prompted (only) by your comments in Reply 2.

In any case, the FCC staff that published PN 14089 did not say that Part 15 AM systems are/will be LIMITED to a 200-foot radius, but that 200 feet is their "average maximum" coverage radius.

Again your leaving out words to emphasize your.. possible agenda. What it actually says is "Approx. Maximum Coverage Radius". And it's not law, only that contained in the FCC rules and regulations is law.

eh.. I kinda missed your point on the first read Rich.. I get it now. Yes, I agree.

Again your leaving out words to emphasize your possible agenda.

What words do you suggest that I left out, and what do you believe to be my possible agenda?

I would not have posted what I did in response to Reply 13 here if systems compliant with FCC 15.219 did not permit useful AM reception WELL beyond the 200 foot radius stated in FCC Public Notice 14089.

My only "agenda" here is to support the technical realities permitted by U.S. 47 CFR, Part 15.