Mighty1650 wrote: "I have a Blonder-Tongue modulator used mostly for analog TV experimentation on Channel 9, though at times I'll bump it to 6 for the audio on 87.7 FM. It can and does work quite well."
That is good to hear, I was browsing ebay last night and saw several catv modulators for sale around $ 65 and up, i might try to get one later.
I had an A & B modulator for channels 3 and 4 but lost that in one of my many moves across the state of Kentucky.
Barry fo BBR WorldWide
After checking both databases yesterday and again today, i am getting different results today. Yesterday, the Google database said No you cannot use 82 -88 Mhz, while the other database Spectrum Bridge was showing it was okay for me to use channel 6.
Now today, both databases which are connected to the FCC main database say it's fine to broadcast on channel 6 in my area for wireless microphones. This could mess people up in the future, so i certainly hope the FCC see's to it that the database is up to date and working as it should.
Barry of BBR WorldWide
I have a old PCS Electronics FM transmitter first or 2nd version it will go down to 86mhz broadcast on there and nobody will be able to listen LOL.
Djboutit,
I can tune into the Japanese FM band and see random dead carriers (unmodulated) that I first thought were by products of devices in my home.
It wasn't until i put batteries in the Grundig G3 and walked around outside that i noted those carriers were something else, they didn't change much when i was outside 200 feet or more from my house.
My Sony car stereo picks them up down there too, i have no idea where it is coming from.
Barry of BBR Worldwide
A wireless microphone consists of a microphone and a transmitter.
A part 15 FM transmitter is a transmitter, and all programming sent over it comes from microphones... microphones used to record orchestras, singers, speech, and live action.
Therefore a part i5 radio station IS a wireless microphone.
Effective at once I am setting my Scosche FMTR for 87.7 MHz.
Not only is it permitted by this special FCC waiver, but it is Certified!
I knew it all along.
Well Well Well... its not a secret that The New Radio Revolution has been very very very active about 87.7 and 87.9 Mhz being allowed for Hobby Broadcasters however the FCC needed a reason to make it so. So we mentioned Wireless Mics and Audio extending devices as well as Hobby Broadcasting.
And as Artisan Radio saw they took my suggestions and made them a reality. The FCC won't care if you pump audio into a transmitter from something other than a mic. All they care about is if your causing interference. It was a way for us to bypass scrutiny from the NAB. If we said Hobby Station it would not have passed.
There is nothing stopping you from chopping off the mic element and then wiring up a 1/8th inch jack or for the matter putting a jack on the transmitter and having the other go to a mic and have the mic powered. The user can simply just NOT use the MIC and wire it into their mixer. And nothing said its NOT STEREO... YOUR WELCOME!! More sneaky submissions have been made from The New Radio Revolution that will help us all but they won't be published till it just happens lol!!!
WE got too much slack so the attack is going to be underhanded just like this one was in the DEAD of NIGHT we took what the RIAA did and applied it as well.
The sad news is however I found car Radio's that won't go down to 87.7 Mhz but WILL go to 87.9 Mhz. So you may have to use that if there is no 88.1 Mhz. And 50-100 mW will get you a mile if you have the antenna High Enough.
There is a way to get the export processor for the Ramsey and move to 87.9 Mhz. Turn the unit all the way up and get your listeners.
New Radio Revolution (We made 87.7-87.9 Mhz legal when the rest of part 15 said IT WON'T happen). Hint... Think Signstek CZE-T200 yup set the power to the right setting...Your LEGAL on those frequencies.
If the FCC is going allow unlincensed 5 or 10 watt broadcasting on FM they need to expand the band down to at least 84.1mhz. If there is a station on 88.1 or a white space station on 87.7 in your area like here in Houston then 87.7 and 87.9 are out for anything.
TheLegacy said: "The FCC won't care if you pump audio into a transmitter from something other than a mic."
TheLegacy, you miss the point... there is nothing other than a mic that you can plug into a transmitter.
If you plug an iPod into a transmitter the iPod is only the conduit between the microphones used to record the music and the transmitter.
There is no such thing as audio that does not get picked up by a microphone.
Whether the microphone is carried to the transmitter by a wire, a vinyl disc, a CD recording, a reel of tape, or digital storage, the music or speech is still picked up by a microphone and sent somehow to the transmitter.
Bingo! Wireless mic.
Some posts on this thread have been deleted. Barry's final post was a casualty - sorry Barry. It's a good idea to contact the FCC to verify assumptions and I'm sure we all look forward to hearing the results.
TheLagacy made the following Statement:
"New Radio Revolution (We made 87.7-87.9 Mhz legal when the rest of part 15 said IT WON'T happen). Hint... Think Signstek CZE-T200 yup set the power to the right setting...Your LEGAL on those frequencies."
Say What???
With all due respect Troy,
You do realize this has been on the table for several years now, don't you?
There is mention of this from the fcc as far back as 2008, i hardly think The Radio Revolution had anything to do with the FCC decision to open white spaces for part 15 use, claiming credit for the FCC's decisioin is foolish.
Barry of no station at all if this s417 keeps up.
Yes but it was one thing we kept bringing up when others said it was too late to do anything about old documents like that proposal.
Dispute anything else it happened and we can rejoice in it.
It certainly looks promising.
I've quickly gone over the rules as found on the Internet and there are quite a few technical requirements for whitespace devices (such as geolocation tracking, checking databases for available channels, etc.). I suspect that you'll need to use a certified transmitter for those frequencies.
And while there's no actual mention of broadcasting as a use, there's nothing that says that you can't use one of these devices for broadcasting either.
Some clarification from the FCC would be nice. It may be that, while the FCC never intended to use these devices for broadcasting (much like 15.239, 219 etc.), it would be a perfectly acceptable use.
And if that is the case, we then need to convince a broadcasting manufacturer(s) to produce one (or more).
"Some wireless microphones and headsets that broadcast to a receiver which amplifies the audio. Wireless microphones allow the user to move about freely, unlike a conventional microphone, and are thus popular with musicians. Some professional wireless microphones and 'low power auxiliary' stations(including those labeled as "UHF") must be licensed under Part 74, Subpart H of the FCC's rules. However, as of January 2010, many professional wireless microphones, and other Part 74 certified 'low power auxiliary' stations with a 50 mW output or less, can be operated in the "core TV band" (TV channels 2 through 51, except 37) frequencies without a license under a waiver of Part 15 rules. This waiver is expected to become permanent.[3] Units using the high UHF channels (700 MHz band) revoked from the TV bandplan in June 2009 became illegal to operate in June 2010."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Title_47_CFR_Part_15
I'll bet Source FM (think Whole House 3.0) is on it. I'll bet it uses WiFi and Google locator (think Android) or smart cards. This WAS MY proposal. So that may be your NEW certified Transmitter for Hobby FM broadcasting. It will cover 87.1-87.9 Mhz. I talked to Brian about such a said Transmitter if it was passed.
Remember I called some malicious users as Johnny Punks? Here is anti Johnny Punk. I think they will be in Beta first.
The Big Repack right now is only a future plan... it hasn't happened yet. We won't know what "white-channel spaces" will be open for use until after the Repack, but in every region of the Homeland there will be some white-spaces after things settle down.