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Cell Calls in a Car

March 27, 2012 by Carl Blare

Today I saw someone talking on a cell phone in a car with the windows rolled up and the doors closed. It was not a public hazard, because the caller was parked and not moving.

Today I saw someone talking on a cell phone in a car with the windows rolled up and the doors closed. It was not a public hazard, because the caller was parked and not moving.

I came to the conclusion that what I was seeing was impossible. Those little microwaves from a small battery device cannot possibly escape the Faraday Cage imposed by the car’s metal body, and there is no way the signal that does escape could possibly pass through the trees and buildings standing in the way of the cell tower 2-blocks away.

People who think they are speaking to someone from inside a car are having a fever delusion caused by the micro-wave-oven frequency impressed on the side of their head.

If it did work, of course, it could be amazingly convenient.

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About Carl Blare

Ambassador of Recreational Radio, owner operator of KDX Worldround Radio, webmaster for kdxradio.com, host of The Blare Blog.

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  1. MICRO1700 says

    March 27, 2012 at 11:03 pm

    Cell Phones
    Hi Carl!

    I don’t like cell phones. However, after years
    of not having one, I got stranded somewhere
    and really had a problem.

    So I got one. I use it as little as possible.
    When I tell people that the operating
    frequency is not that different from a
    microwave oven, they simply do not
    understand. They also do not understand
    that the cell phone is generating RF
    even when you are not making a call.

    I don’t know how the cell signals get out of
    cars, either. There is a term, that I sort of
    remember – it’s something like “RF
    apachure.” (SP?) It means that the RF energy can
    get out of small spaces if it’s wavelength is
    small. And as we know, we are dealing with
    very small wavelengths here.

    Sometimes, in the ham radio world, a 440 MHz
    handitalkie will work better than a 2 meter (144 MHz)
    handitalkie.. I have heard stories where a ham is
    in a building trying to hit a repeater system. 440 MHz
    gets out of the windows better than 2 meters.

    Well, that’s it for me.

    Best Wishes,
    Bruce, DOGGRADIO STUDIO 2

    • Ermi Roos says

      March 28, 2012 at 3:29 am

      Cellphones in cars
      Car bodies are not exactly Faraday cages. The windows are large apertures, RF passes through glass, and the edges of the doors form narrow slot antennas. I’m repeating some things in the previous post.

    • Ken Norris says

      March 28, 2012 at 5:25 am

      Escape!!
      Yeah, we’re talking about tiny wave lengths, which can escape through almost anything, even metal structures. A hole from a missing rivet or a gap in the weather strip between panels or a door would be plenty big enough.

      Years ago I recall an ELT signal (121.5 mHz) set off by a bouncy landing in an aircraft. We (Civil Air Patrol, Lake Tahoe Sqdn) had a heckuvva time locating it even with a couple of ramp drive-arounds (Reno-Tahoe Airport). We heard signal on the East side of Verdi Peak (minerals in the mountain were reflecting the signal) during electronic air search (I happen to have flown that part of the mission).

      Turned out it was from an aircraft inside a metal hangar where the door had a slight gap at the bottom. It was escaping under there, well enough to bounce off a mountain twelve miles away!

      Now, those units are gradually being replaced by 406 mHz ones. Easier to pinpoint the source, etc.

      In large cities where the towers are high up, it’s known that cellular signals spill, rather like a cascade, down the sides of buildings and onto the streets.

      Nothing about RF signals surprises me anymore.

      • Carl Blare says

        March 28, 2012 at 7:02 pm

        What a World
        Based on the descriptions of micro-waves that means we are standing and walking in a pool of phone conversations with incessant yakking and jabber 24-hours a day and yet all I actually hear is a plane that’s been cruising the sky for about 5-hours, perhaps a drone-school test plane.

        • MICRO1700 says

          March 28, 2012 at 8:35 pm

          Now I Know How To Spell Aperture – AND
          It is interesting that cellphone
          signals “spill” down from the towers
          and down into the streets.

          I had never thought of it that way.

          But it makes sense. It’s microwaves –
          so it’s really radar – and radar
          bounces off of objects. And if the
          power is high enough, the energy
          keeps reflecting back and forth,
          I guess.

          Sort of like LIGHT.

          Best Wishes,
          Bruce, DOGGRADIO STUDIO 2

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