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January 1, 2022 at 3:06 pm #118854
In the past, criticism of other Part 15 discussion sites has been actively discouraged here, while those sites themselves have felt no compunction to play nice. One in particular, Hobbybroadcaster.net, has often criticized those participating in venues other than their own. Today, the webmaster there felt it necessary to once again post self congratulations to his site, and call all others “copycats”.
Now, Hobbybroadcaster has been around since roughly 2007 (they say almost 14 years). When I first started Artisan Radio on Bowen Island in 2006, the only Part 15 Forum around was this one, then called Part15.us. And, in fact, it had been around for several years (since at least 2003) and was very active.
So, who exactly is the copycat?
Granted, these days Hobbybroadcaster is slightly more active than this Forum, but that’s mainly due to the webmaster ‘seeding’ his site with posts every day, many of which are not related to Part 15. There are very few other active posters that I can see.
Wouldn’t it be nice if Part15.org could be brought back to its former glory and blow these guys out of the water? I’ve stated in the past that I’ve felt it was too restrictive moderation that was the cause of fewer and fewer posts. Particularly in the area of supposed off topic posting. I know that was why I stopped.
I’m not suggesting that forbidden topics such as politics or religion be allowed. Similarly, I’m also not saying that ad hominem attacks and the like are OK. Rather, what I am attempting to say is that there is more to Part 15 broadcasting than the technical stuff such as long ground leads, or FCC rule interpretations (both of which have been beaten to death, here and elsewhere).
Surely, if Hobbybroadcaster can call itself a Part 15 site (and the “premiere” one, no less), while talking about dead TV celebrities, woke culture in music and other such nonsense, Part15.org can endure postings that may not be strictly technical.
People post because they’re interested in what they’re talking about. They wouldn’t do it otherwise. Attacking the posts because you don’t think they’re relevant is akin to attacking the poster. And there may be others that find those same posts very relevant.
If you’re not interested in what you’re reading, you can always stop. You can even ignore the poster if you want.
I’d rather have a very active, chaotic, Forum where plenty of different points of view were being presented, rather than an orderly but very quiet one. That would certainly be in contrast to Hobbybroadcaster, where you don’t last long as a member if you actively disagree with the webmaster.
But then, that’s me. What do you think?January 1, 2022 at 7:00 pm #118862Part 15 EngineerParticipant
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he has an ego large enough to fill Shea stadium a few times over. that site is simply to there to feed his over inflated ego and his feeling of self importance. he’s over compensating for a lack of something south if the border. an extreme case of little man syndrome!!!! I’m sure i will get moderated but it needed to be said out in the open.
i don’t even bother to look at the little bit of publicly available info at his site anymore.January 2, 2022 at 10:40 am #118865
This is something that should get some action here.
First of all I will comment on Part 15 Engineer’s post. He may be right, and I can think of 3 or 4 things off the top of my head as examples, Artisan mentioned a couple, it’s not the place for one forum to bash or slander another forum or especially the owner. What should be concentrated on is this forum and making it better not bashing another. To draw a parallel you have two radio stations in a certain market. Talk for example. If one station on air, host or even allowing callers to slander or even discuss the other station on air it could even lead to lawsuits. Can you imagine one station slandering the program director of another on air? They can’t say they are better than them. So it would be best if this forum were to just concentrate on ourselves, what makes us good, and leave the others names and personal attacks out of it, unless it’s a referral to another forum for another reason in a discussion other than slandering the owner. I left the post but it’s best leaving it at that.
As for Artisan’s post I think he is right. We had someone here namely Carl Blare who did just what he is saying. He kept the forum active with posts not exactly about part 15 and got some good discussions going like is rap music for example and other things.
He kept posting little humorous things about different subjects only indirectly related to hobby radio and took the conversation to other things which is what Artisan is suggesting but why is he not here now?
We should keep the general theme of the forum yes but going off the format a little is good for getting more discussion.
But please no more personal attacks on the other forum owner! He can run it like he wants. We can disagree but we can’t personally attack him publicly here on the forum.
Instead we can concentrate on our positives.January 2, 2022 at 12:03 pm #118867
Carl Blare (who, incidently, has a rich history in professional broadcasting) left this Forum because he grew tired of his posts continuously being moderated and criticized for being off topic. He now has his own blog (The Blare Blog), which I highly recommend.
Perhaps he can be coaxed back if Mark’s intentions are actually realized as actions.
It was not my intention to personally attack anyone in my initial post. Upon rereading it, I don’t think that I did. I believe that it is valid and indeed sometimes necessary to criticize others’ actions when they are outrageous and harmful to Part 15 broadcasting, no matter where they reside.
My goal was to attempt to kick start this particular Forum and bring it back to its former glory. There are many individuals here, present and past, that have a background in professional broadcasting. There are also others with experience that I haven’t seen on other site(s), including real computer professionals (i.e., myself), electronics engineers, etc.
In other words, this can still be the go to site for Part 15 broadcasting. All we need is more participation.
So what are you waiting for?January 2, 2022 at 1:19 pm #118872
I agree with artisan. I see so many members that have been active in the last few days but no posting. Myself to blame too. I just can’t think of any subjects to start. We need someone like Carl to be able to think of little things like he did. There will be no moderating from me as long as certain guidelines are not violated. I actually had a little conversation with Carl a little while ago as I seemed to have stumbled onto his blog when looking around and that discussion could have been here on the forum, even though it was not about part 15 in particular and I mentioned that. But I can’t find now how I got there! I even look through older posts to try to see if I can add or comment to it. We need more action here not privately on blogs….just my opinion.
I wasn’t thinking of your post Artisan when commenting about slandering the other forum, well not so much the forum as the owner personally.
It was suggested a while ago that we should have a section here for everyone to list their stations….location, format, local area covered, country transmitter used, and it should be in a place where it doesn’t get lost down the list as more posts come….a special section in the forums for this and I can’t do it. I suggested this to admin.
Of course in keeping with “legal unlicensed” in your country. I don’t think pirate station listings would be good. Everyone could see what others are doing.January 2, 2022 at 2:36 pm #118874
I think that Forums and private blogs can coexist peacefully. I have a blog (that I just restarted) as well, and there are some things I can post there that I (and I’m sure the moderator(s) here) would be more comfortable with.
The Blare Blog can be found at http://kdxradio.com
The Artisan Radio blog is at http://artisanradio.comJanuary 5, 2022 at 5:12 pm #118906
I went to the blogs and can’t see where to write a comment on any posts?January 6, 2022 at 8:15 am #118912
<p style=”text-align: left;”>Forums are for comments. Blogs are mainly one way communication. Both have their place.</p>January 11, 2022 at 2:31 pm #118937Horatio CaineParticipant
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Hi Mark & All,
Happy New Year to All, I hope you all had a Nice Holiday with Family and Friends.
I noticed some of you brought up “Hobby Broadcaster”. I got into a short debate with him on Twitter on why he didn’t allow new people to join his discussions forum on his webpage, which I feel it helps so much to talk to other Part 15 users. Many of us are engineers or retired engineers. Sharing knowledge is a good thing. Last year, I took his side on against a licensed broadcaster that called him out over the United States Part 15 Rules.
We all know his real name, who he works for, etc. and I’m not going into that, but on Twitter, he used the name “Hobby Broadcaster” and he would post in my opinion, “R Rated, Sexual Jokes” or retweeted them. He did not use his Twitter Account for discussion for Part 15 Hobby Broadcasting that I saw.
If he so desired to post “R Rated Sexual Content”, then why didn’t he just make another Twitter Account in some other name? I’m sure many of you have heard about the new social media platform, Gettr. I won’t say no more about them.
I will give Hobby Broadcaster credit, there is some helpful information on his website. I just don’t understand why he chooses to be picky about who is allowed to join the discussions forum. I’ll leave it right now at that.
I sincerely hope all of you are doing well in this New Year, may many blessings come your way.January 11, 2022 at 7:21 pm #118943
Hope you have a good new year also and nice to hear from you again here.
How’s your Procaster working out for you? If I remember you were trying to get it set up right?
As for the other forum our positive is everyone is welcome here. It’s an open forum.January 31, 2022 at 6:39 am #119073Horatio CaineParticipant
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I didn’t think about logging in until the last day of January. First month of the new year has been fine. Going to go get the booster vaccine shot this week.
My Procaster is doing good. I have it inside with a antenna like yours on 1620. Down here, the channel is very clear during the Daytime, a little clutter at night, but I haven’t been concerned about the nighttime.
I found someone who has a Inovonics 222 that is going to make it affordable to buy. I’m on a tight budget. I’m retired so no hurry. Hope everyone is doing fine on this forum.January 31, 2022 at 2:10 pm #119083
Hi, Horatio, I posted a little trick with an artificial ground you can try and showed the idea of what I did. Made a significant difference on the peaking meter and resulting more signal off the antenna. Had to adjust the meter with the trimmer as I was at the end of travel at the 10 and needed to see a peak. Doing nicely now.
The studio that comes with the Procaster is quite good and all I add is a headphone EQ/preamp from the computer so I can have a little more control of the sound. I also have the Schlockwood AM 200 but the studio does everything it does except triband compression( it does full spectrum compression) but I recently have just been using the studio and there’s not much difference between the two.
Thinking that the money I spent on the Schlockwood which is designed by the same person who designed the Inovonics, was not needed as the difference it makes over the processor that comes with the Procaster wasn’t worth the $500 USD incl. shipping ($650 CAN) I paid for it. I was using it for FM but I have gone back to 1630 AM and have no plans to change at this time.
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