- April 3, 2019 at 8:31 am #110726
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If you have a link to your broadcast or stream, place it here:
- April 3, 2019 at 9:41 am #110727
Only over the air. But if you are interested in a 1 or 2 hour segment I can do that as it was heard on air and in an MP3 file get it to you somehow if I know how to send a large file like that. Maybe you could use as a feature on your station. It would also have the jingles and I’Ds as played also.
- This reply was modified 4 months, 2 weeks ago by Mark.
- April 3, 2019 at 1:14 pm #110730
Mark, a lot of people upload multi-hour segments to radio4all.net/ , which would be a simple way of doing it.
As for part15 streaming stations, the only ones I know are:
ABN Old-Time Radio Antioch: http://188.8.131.52:8000/listen
Radio Sausalito: http://radiosausalito.org/128k
Retro Radio 1490: http://ice10.securenetsystems.net/RETRO
WFPN RADIO NORWICH CT: http://184.108.40.206:9672/;
That’s the only ones I know of, but think I may be missing one.. I prefer to use the RADYO player http://windowsradyo.com because it’s not bloated and also let’s me easily record the streams for offline listening (however you can’t export or save those recordings outside the program, but it still comes on handy)
Oh yeah.. there’s the Gulch, excellent station, but I’m not sure if he’s actually broadcasting part15 anymore since he went LPFM http://www.gulchradio.com/onair/
Who am I missing?
- This reply was modified 4 months, 2 weeks ago by RichPowers.
- April 3, 2019 at 4:09 pm #110733
- April 3, 2019 at 6:07 pm #110735
- April 3, 2019 at 6:12 pm #110737
Carl Hogs Up Another Message Window
Oh, and you asked about creating a program and I produce several which are getting hard to find because I am not sure whether I want to link them or not.
Once in awhile I link some here and a few are linked at End80’s Part15 Lab.
My current series is called EVERYDAY but I don’t do them everyday.
- April 4, 2019 at 4:13 am #110744
Yes, sorry, The Legacy: https://www.radio.net/s/thelegacy (Not sure how to extract the actual stream to use with any radio app but it can be played on that page or by downloading the radio.net app.
Carl, I didn’t realized you periodically streamed.. does your actual stream address change or is it consistent every time? I couldn’t add the address you provide because it actually goes to an Icecast page (when I went to it wasn’t currently streaming).
- April 4, 2019 at 7:05 am #110745
Rich Powers Investigations: “Does your actual stream address change or is it consistent every time? I couldn’t add the address you provide because it actually goes to an Icecast page.”
The KDX stream address is fixed and does not change.
The Icecast page linked earlier is the actual Stream Server which presents an inbuilt Ogg Player or an m3U player choice.
To get the stream started directly try this:
- April 4, 2019 at 9:06 am #110746
Part15Engineer streams but I need to download an app to get it. It won’t work clicking on listen now like it used to.
- April 4, 2019 at 3:14 pm #110749
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I’m close to getting my newly revamped Artisan Radio (with classical music) stream up and running. I’m in the process of madly creating my automated playlist with public domain (in Canada) classical performances.
Once I get that done, I will be creating an opera program, again with public domain performances. I intend to keep it ‘out of the ordinary’, i.e., not containing standard pieces, but those not often heard.
I don’t intend to get a static IP and use DNS services, but I will redirect those who type in http://www.artisanradio.com (the domain that I intend to keep up) directly to my in-house streaming server. I’m not sure if potential listeners will have to add anything to that address – it all depends on how my registrar handles redirects (it’s been so long since I played with it that I need to try things out once again – I might be able to put the port in the redirect).
I will be running an application on my server that will communicate with the registrar and automatically change my IP address should it ever change (even though I use a dynamic one, I haven’t seen it change yet).
I won’t be putting up a web page, so I’ll have to figure out a way to distribute the opera program (as yet unnamed) to those interested (if any).
- April 4, 2019 at 4:43 pm #110754
Decoding Hidden Stream Addresses
Much time has been spent looking for ways of finding the stream address of proprietary stream sources and I’ve captured a few.
If a stream can be run in the VLC Player it is possible to see the needed data.
Know any tricks or secrets?
- April 5, 2019 at 6:36 am #110760
Decoding Hidden Streams – Part 2
Why do we need to find the basic stream address of a stream source?
To relay an incoming stream in real time from within the Zara Playlist, a way of “going live”, a certain form of address is needed or it doesn’t re-stream. Typically it’s an address like: http://stream1.thomhartmann.com/hartmann.live
This morning we wanted to “go live” using a video feed coming from RT America, their news truck setup outside the Ecuadoran Embassy in London, based on a strong tip that Jullian Assange was about to be evicted.
So, we wanted to grab the audio from the video feed, but an IP address usable by Zara is hidden by RT’s Exclusive Player which conceals the address data.
Our other choice might be down-conversion into analog audio, patching through an audio mixer, and re-digitizing it back into a newly generated stream… except that our hardware isn’t configured for that arrangement.
Circumstances improve between 11 AM and 2 PM when Thom Hartmann broadcasts live from his studio in Portland, Oregon, able to report immediately any news events that happen during his show.
- April 5, 2019 at 8:44 am #110763
- April 5, 2019 at 9:30 am #110743
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As part community social project and part live performance art, RadioAvtive RadioFree made a decision not to stream because our goal is to encourage people to participate through tuning in to a radio wave broadcast with a physical radio.
Since we will be broadcasting from different locations based on the date and time people interested have to come to the vicinity of those locations to listen in.
Archives of the shows will be available 30 days after they air by request but not streamed. Part of our message is highlighting the perishable nature of radio broadcast.
We have talked about having a separate internet station that drives interest and support for the physical station.
- April 5, 2019 at 10:37 am #110765
Perishable Messages Made of Air
Jennifer captures my attention by saying: “Part of our message is highlighting the perishable nature of radio broadcast.”
I agree with that “part” of your message and would be interested in learning the other parts.
Is there a website where RadioActive RadioFree bases its activities?
Archives of your shows might be something we’d like to relay here at KDX Worldround Radio, as we’re heavily into the creative side.
Radio on the move reminds me of the times when the carnival came to town.
When people arrive for the show do they sit in their cars or are there microphones in a tent?
- April 5, 2019 at 2:22 pm #110767
Well didn’t you just pop in out of the blue Jennifer.. Checked out your website (RadioActivefree.com) and see your from Chattanooga. How long has your station been going on? What transmitter(s) you use? Is your studio a mobile setup? How have your popup broadcast events been?
Nice to have a female in the mist! (or so I presume.. never knew a guy named Jennifer).
- April 5, 2019 at 2:49 pm #110768
Jennifer mentions the perishable nature of radio. Agree, and I like good old fashion over the air radio like you appear to want to encourage and preserve.
- April 5, 2019 at 3:10 pm #110770
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I can appreciate the sentiment of wanting to do over-the-air radio. I think that that’s the primary focus of most of us here (by the way, I really liked the audio clip on the RadioActive website).
The problem is that range is so limited for Part 15 stations that it limits the actual number of users that can listen in, particularly on cheaper and less sensitive radios.
Streaming allows you to get FM radio quality over the Internet at relatively low bitrates (64-128Kbps for stereo mp3’s, less for AAC and other more efficient codecs). It expands your potential listening audience, and therefore there’s a far greater chance that people will listen in with actual radios if they like what they hear.
When I was operating on Bowen Island here in British Columbia, Canada, I had people driving to and parking at the shopping mall in which my storefront was located just to tune in. Many could not hear the signal from their homes any other way other than via the Internet, and that then prompted their actions.
So I wouldn’t rule out streaming from that perspective. The only viable reason I can see for NOT streaming (if you want listeners) is the music licensing cost and potential book keeping. Some of us here run our own servers, and it’s relatively easy if you don’t plan on having thousands of users (a 5Mbps Internet upload connection can support over 100 simultaneous listeners – I’ve seen much higher than that with low bit rate streams).
- April 5, 2019 at 9:42 pm #110781
Here’s why I won’t consider streaming, just from my perspective, some of which I mentioned in other posts.
Yes there’s the cost of music licenses(although not much) the cost of the app or program to do the stream….is it a monthly fee? don’t know, and the having to keep a log of what plays and when. Half the time I am not listening or asleep while it just goes on automated.
And there’s the know how of setting this up through the app and the computer with your playlist, jingles etc.
Is it worth it to get to the world…NO…and here’s why. You are one tree in a forest. Think of a national park just for example, there’s millions, maybe even a billion trees, literally, and you are one. And thousands of trees just like yours. How would someone come across your tree, and what would that tree have that the other same type of trees wouldn’t.
You see the comparison I am making here. The only people that would listen if at all would be the 1 or 2 that I give the web address to like the few people on this forum. The chances are VERY slim that anyone would come across my stream. Or even go to the right server or place to find it. All the effort and expense and not worth it. The world wouldn’t be listening.
Here’s my experience with streaming. When listening on my computer in the past to Part15Engineer for example I see at the top…..listeners in last 24 hours 1…..me. Listeners in the last hour…1… me. Really! with the whole world capable of tuning in!
Same with Thelegacy. If it wasn’t for this forum and knowing him and being given the address to tune to, do you think I would ever have discovered that particular stream? Not likely. If I wanted Album Rock for example I would just search it and thousands of streams in that genera would come up.
There’s also the fact that not to many people in the world use their computer as a radio.
And like Jennifer, I have an attachment for old fashion radio which I grew up with. Radio is free. No monthly fees to make it work, A slogan of mine is just that. I can take a radio outside, it works on batteries, and listen to my own station. No advantage for me to stream. And I also don’t get why TV networks stream when you can just turn on the TV. Why would I want to watch a program sitting at the computer or on a tiny little screen on a smartphone?
CTV here in Canada states for all their programs “streaming at 10:00PM” for example. The same time it’s on TV….who cares…I have a TV set.
No, from my perspective, I have no interest in streaming. But that’s just me.
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