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Given recent events here and revelations across many different topics posted over the last few Weeks I have decided after nearly 20 years of messing with part 15 radio its time to get out of the hobby. I am no longer a bachelor and given the way the world is getting and is now seeming to be invading the radio hobby its time for me to put all the radio gear in storage and exit the hobby. It’s too risky anymore being involved in non mainstream hobbies. Time has come for me to bow out of the hobby for my health sanity and the safety of me and my family. Someone else who does not have a family to protect can take over and fill my shoed in tne forums. I will no longer be doing part 15 research or attempting to obtain data and documents on the subject for the forums. I don’t need to be and can’t afford to be on the receiving end of any government subpeona nal nouo or civil slapp suits.
Total posts : 45366I figure you’ll be back.
I also have retreated from this forum when it becomes too frustrating.
I come back regularly. But I never quit the hobby.
If this is the result of my comment regarding litigation about proprietary info made public, Mr. Conover did not make that statement. He simply asks for the person putting it out there to rescind the offer.
Understanding what could happen, I alone felt it necessary to put that warning out there to protect our Part 15 Family.
Throughout this whole ordeal, I have only tried to bring out the info we all seek. You can lead a horse to water but I can’t force anyone to accept the info I provided.
I sincerely believe, taken at face value, the documents are real and prove the Talking House is certified by the FCC for use with the ATU/remote antenna. Perhaps only at ground level, the document does not specify. But, several jumped all over it saying “no proof”, “not certified”, “you’re taking a chance”,”what’s going on in the background”.
I have no connection to Mr. Conover of Radio Systems other than the correspondence presented on this forum.
I am aquainted with Mr. Baker of ISS as our City purchased from ISS the T.I.S. turnkey system which I maintain. It was through Mr. Baker that I was referred to Mr. Conover.
Look at me, I’m back-even though I said I wouldn’t say another word about all of this.
Total posts : 45366i will still read the forum, but my participation will be next to nothing for a while till i see where all this goes.
all i have to see is keep watch on the FCC enforcement feed in the column to the right. it just very well might pick up after the election going into the holiday season.
right now i am going into shut up and observe mode.
Total posts : 45366I enjoy your input kc8gpd, but a person must take the path that makes him feel safe.
I keep my carrier current system off the air most of the time, even though it’s fully legal, because I don’t want a visit by someone who has no appointment. I consider that rude, no matter who it is. Even though I’d pass the inspection.
One time a family member rang the doorbell when I wasn’t expecting him. He had two out-of-town relatives with him, but I had a recording client inside, was working on a project, and had a girl friend standing by until we went to lunch. I told my family member he should have called and said goodbye. How thoughtless of him.
One thing I’ve enjoyed about this website is that every once in awhile a member gets annoyed by the way a discussion is going, but the reason this website exists is for these discussions. If we avoided talking about part 15 topics we would not annoy anyone, but the website would no longer be needed.
That annoys me.
Total posts : 45366i sent you a private message explaining in detail my decision and you are certainly welcome to pick my brain in private if you need to but for a while i at least i am not going to be public about anything.
Total posts : 45366Thank you, kc8gpd, I appreciate the personal message and I do understand what you said.
But, of course, posting here, the contents of your message is left out and I am only responding to what you say here.
But you are fine. No further explanation is needed, and standing back for awhile is sometimes the right thing to do. I’ve done it.
I think what a few of us are saying is that we like having you here, and we want to be as supportive as possible.
Total posts : 45366“Throughout this whole ordeal, I have only tried to bring out the info we all seek. You can lead a horse to water but I can’t force anyone to accept the info I provided.”
Indeed, I don’t think anyone can or has said anything contrary to that.
But what happens is you can only provide what you are given.
And though it is of no fault of yours, what was given is not what is being sought. That fault cannot be placed on the messenger.
And they know this…as we also know this.
What is presently available only provides part of the answer, but not the whole answer.
Part answers are not good enough..not for me. And I am sure that answering for a violation, the FCC isn’t going to settle for partial answers either.
No one should settle for partial answers or good enough. That is not being responsible in ensuring compliance.
But each of us sets our own standards and limitations. For one good enough is good enough, while for others, it is not good enough. For me and my stations, the specifics I look for are being held back, who cares why, the fact is crucial pieces of the whole are missing.
And there is no arguing that fact is there.
Something very deep is going on about that unit..to a point that the most important information is missing. All that remains are hints and clues, but no clear direct defining answer to the question.
No one from this forum is being held accountable for that missing information. At least as far as I am concerned.
What has been collected is a start, but were far from the finish line.
RFB
Total posts : 45366I am going to follow kcggpd out of this particular discussion, because I might be confused.
I thought the certification documentation WAS presented, up above, and I thought that was the objective of the whole inquiry about the ATU and the coax.
I’ll probably never study the whole thread from the beginning to figure out what I missed, and I do not plan to get one of these novel transmitters, so how did I get into this maze?
I’ll see you in a different maze.
Total posts : 45366Although we haven’t met personally, we’ve known each other for a while, and traded some equipment in the past.
Just wanted to wish you the best. Thank you for the Part 15 help you’ve given to me, and others.
Take care!
Alan
Total posts : 45366If you’re paranoid in Colorado, try being a Part 15 operator in Florida where local law enforcement is doing the FCC’s job. At least the the FCC knows the difference between a pirate and a Part 15 op. Local cops don’t.
Total posts : 45366You caught my ear John Dade City, because I hear all the time about Florida’s criminalizing of unlicensed broadcasting, but I haven’t before heard anyone address the special case of part 15.
Your comments don’t surprise me. Law enforcement in the present day seems to have gotten more blunt, non-thinking, and hostile, than it “seemed” to be in America in the past.
I put “seemed” in quotes because I understand that law enforcement has always been dangerous in America, except I think they did better PR (public relations) in the past.
I remember the day in 1970, I was having coffee with my printer, a former fire fighter, and a cop buddy of his joined us. Simply because a black man walked past the window the cop became nostalgic, “I miss the days when we just dropped them off the bridge.”
Total posts : 45366I agree with you that some of the discussions over the past few weeks here have degenerated to the point of silliness (and seem to continue on and on ad nauseum, all saying the same thing over and over and over …). But you don’t have to read them (I no longer do).
Certainly, there are plenty of reasons to get out of this hobby (or any hobby, for that matter). I’m going traveling, so will be giving the Canadian equivalent of Part 15 a break. And if the hobby no longer gives you pleasure, then why do it?
But don’t let the issues (and paranoia) of others drive you away. It’s their problem, not yours. You should be participating in any endeavor for yourself first. As they say, don’t let the turkeys get you down.
But whatever your decision, take care, and hopefully will (virtually) see you around.
Total posts : 45366Ar
My dad and one or both of my grandparents were Canadian born. Does that give me dual us/CA citizenship?
I don’t like where the country is going as far ad it seems to be starting to parallel 1930s Germany and am seriously considering vacating here nefore there is border lockdowns and dissatisfied citezens are prebentef from going
Total posts : 45366There are thousands of true stories of people leaving their home countries for personal security from political dangers, even many movies about some of the stories.
One thing that always strikes me as strange is when a country that hates its inhabitants tries to prevent them from leaving.
I would think, that if I hated somebody, I’d be glad they left.
Total posts : 45366You should consult an immigration lawyer regarding that one.
I suspect that with your Dad being Canadian, you could easily get into Canada. I thought you had to give up your U.S. citizenship to become a citizen of another country, but that could be old information.
Each and every country is different. I know that being a Canadian citizen, I can also be a citizen of another country (hold dual or more citizenships). For example, my paternal grandparents were British citizens (then immigrated to Canada), so I could, if I wanted, apply for a European Union passport.
We have our own share of problems up here – many in the U.S. would think that we have far less freedoms. We pay far more taxes, but those taxes go towards a social safety net that is far more extensive than in the States (including a universal health system and a subsidized education system). Whether that’s good or bad depends on your point of view, I guess. Certainly, our increased regulations have helped our economy a great deal – our banking system, as an example, has far more checks and balances and didn’t fall into chaos during the last recession (i.e., they didn’t steal their customers and the government blind and then walk away).
Feel free to contact me personally if you want (I recognize that this is a Part 15 Forum).
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