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  • December 28, 2015 at 3:11 pm #10252
    Carl Blare
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    What are the uses of remote controlled flying drones for part 15 radio stations?

    DRONES SIMULCAST FROM THE ALPB SPIGOT

    December 28, 2015 at 11:50 pm #45889
    timinbovey
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    Actually “Drones” are a name given to unmanned aerial systems by the media to make them sound more newsworthy.  The FAA in their rules, refer to them as UAS. 

    Irritating to me personally is the fact that the model airplanes I’ve built and flown since the early 1970’s are now “drones” or UAS. The new FAA rules require anyone who is flying anything that’s over .55 pounds to have a registration number.  This means all the model airplanes my Dad build in the 40’s and 50’s now fall under the new “drone” laws. How ridiculous. 

    I did go ahead and get a registration number as you never know when I might want to pull a plane out and fly again.  Nice things are: If you get your number now (and I think through January 21st, but I could be wrong on the date) it’s free.  You still have to pay $5 but they refund it. It proves you are who you are, or so they think. And one registration and number belongs to you and you can put it on as many UAS that you may own now or in the future. Although you have to renew it every three years. So, it’s not THAT big of a PITA.  But still….

    TIB

    December 29, 2015 at 2:07 am #45890
    RichPowers
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    I just recently got a drone.. A Hubsan FPVH107D.. I spent a few days deciding before getting this particular one – It’s a tiny one, and I doubt it weighs a half lb, but I picked this one because it looked to have the best video quality for the lower priced drones, and I watch several demonstrations on youtube – one being by a 8-10 year old who was fling it around in his living room.. It looked so easy!..

    It came in the mail about a week ago, so I powered it up to give it a test run – ran it into the wall, the ceiling, chair, couch, sink.. Decided it would be better to take outside.. Ran it into the tree, the other tree, the bush, house, fence, ground, shot it down the street, chased it down.. ran it into someone elses house.. searched for the props and put them back on several times, then ran it into a few other things… This all happend in the time span of about half an hour. Put it back in the box.

    Wish I could send it back and get a refund, but it has grass stains now, and the propellers are nicked up a little.

    December 29, 2015 at 2:10 am #45891
    Thelegacy
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    Sort of like the GMRS walkie talkies and people are supposed to be licensed to use those but how many people actually are is another question.

    December 29, 2015 at 7:50 am #45897
    RichPowers
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    Uh.. I think that’s what I bought when I went to pick up my boat.. thought it was a required gear. Didn’t know it needed a licence.

    December 30, 2015 at 10:47 am #45912
    Carl Blare
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    A couple of us guys came up with a radio use for an Unmanned Aerial System (UAS):

    UAS RADIO APP SPIGOT

    December 31, 2015 at 1:58 am #45934
    winter4w
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    In a way the FAA rules arent so bad. I do understand them as it is to help protect planes. I have read many storys and reports of planes almost hitting a drone or do hit one. It is a bit scary that something so small can take out a huge plane. 

    December 31, 2015 at 10:37 pm #45952
    Thelegacy
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    Even a bird can take down a jet plane.  It is why precautions are in place.

    December 31, 2015 at 11:18 pm #45953
    RichPowers
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    Now the birds are going to need registration too

    January 2, 2016 at 5:19 am #45971
    MrBruce
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    RichPowers Said: 

    Now the birds are going to need registration too

     

    Yuppers and now the carrier pigeons are going to have to show proof of a valid operaters license..LOL!

    Excuse me pigeon, can I see your operaters license please?

    Bruce.

    January 2, 2016 at 6:26 am #45972
    winter4w
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    If only it was just as easy to get a FCC lisence 😛 Just pay $5 fill the report and BAM you can get 1-2 miles range.

    January 2, 2016 at 12:44 pm #45973
    timinbovey
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    This whole drone thing is just a way to gather more information on the people, and also give the average Joe the perception that the FAA and the Government actually wants to do something for safety. Registering owners of “drones” or UAS, or model airplanes will do completely ZERO to make the skies any safer. It just creates a way to alegedly bust people who use a UAS to make trouble.  It’s sort of like thinking “if we make everyone get a drivers license there won’t be any more speeding”. 

    If we REALLY wanted to do things to make the skies safer we would do things that are unpopular with the airlines but are proven to work.  Many years ago I read that Nippon Airways did an experiment and discovered that painting menacing eyeballs on jet planes frightened birds away and greatly reduced bird strikes. I found the article:  

    “

    SCIENCE WATCH; Bird-Plane Collisions

    Published: November 11, 1986

    Japan’s All-Nippon Airways has discovered that by menacing-looking eyes painted on the engine intakes of its jet aircraft frighten away birds and prevent collisions.

    The magazine International Wildlife reports that in a controlled experiment, the Japanese domestic airline painted eyes on 26 of its Boeing 747’s and 767’s, and left the rest of its fleet without the bogus eyes.

    At the end of the one-year test period, an average of only one bird had hit each of the engines adorned with painted eyes. Each unpainted engine, however, had been struck by an average of nine birds.

    All-Nippon Airways estimates that the reduction in bird strikes during the testing period reduced the damage to its aircraft from $910,000 to $720,000. Consequently, All-Nippon plans to paint eyes on all its large-body aircraft.”

    Bird strikes happen all the time.  Flight 1549 that landed in the Hudson River a few years ago lost power in both engines due to bird strikes. Something as simple and cheap as painting eyeballs on the planes can reduce that.  Even if, over ten years, doing so saved ONE plane from going down wouldn’t it be worth the paint? But of course we wouldn’t consider anything THAT simple and effective.

    It’s kind of like all the laws and hubub surrounding texting and driving.  Everyone likes to hate texters because it’s so visable.  Now, granted, anyone who texts and drives is an idiot.  However, speeding and driving drunk and still the number 1 & 2 causes of death on the highways (in the USA anyway). They’re actually tied at about 25% each, making up 50% of deaths on the roads. Distracted driving is a tossup between 3rd and 4th, and the NUMBER ONE cause of distracted driving is DAYDREAMING!  Several recent studies have shown, simply not thinking about what you’re doing, day dreaming, etc is the number one distraction by a large margin. Texting/cell phone use comes in somewhere around 8th (that’s 8th in the list of distractions, making it about 10th or 12th on overall cause, and being a very tiny percent). But we enact laws for texters simply because it’s a very visable form of distraction.  It’s popular with the people so it’s popular with politicians, and to hell with any facts and figures. The other distractions that top texting are things outside of the car (reading signs, pretty girls, advertising, pedestrians, etc). Plus operating things inside the car, distractions from passengers, working the climate control or radio/sound system, etc. All these things come in ahead of texting.  Yet, it’s texting we run a million PSA’s for, and run ad campaigne, etc. Clearly the goal isn’t to make the roads safer, but to make it appear that they are making the roads safer with what is popular to complain about rather than what the actual issues are. 

    Same thing with the UAS registrations. 

    Silly.

     

    TIB

    January 3, 2016 at 9:19 am #45985
    RichPowers
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    This whole drone thing is just a way to gather more information on the people,..

    You know something that unnerves me? An old friend of mine (I mean old as in 95), he’s got like 6 tvs in his house.. Sometimes he has a problem and wants me to straighten it out for him – like if one of his tvs loses signal.. Well he uses comcast for his tv, interent and phone.. Anyway, I call comcast cause the signals not working on one tv.. they ask “which tv is giving you the problem?” I say “uh.. the one in the kitchen” they say “one moment please” and shortly after that tv begins working again!

    They know what tv your watching, in which room, what channels, at what time, and how often!

    Another thing odd is the internet.. now this really gets me, cause I don’t quite understand whats happening.. I’m at his house pretty often, and while there will use his computer – Now this is where it gets strange.. I’ll give one example, but this happens all the time. OK, he want’s a new barstool in the kitchen, a comfortable one, so I get on the computer and search for one, and buy it with his credit card.. Done.

    Ok, later on I’m at home, on my own computer, different internet access, and guess what kind of ads are frequently appearing during my browing around session?.. Barstools! The next day I could be looking at solar panels online at his house, later solar panels become the primary ads when I’m at home.. All I can figure is that it has something to do with the fact that I log on to check my email when I’m at his house.

    The thing is I don’t like the idea of it following me around! there’s something very uncool about that.

    It’s so George Orwell. It wont be long before the police force is flying dromes overhead everywhere. 

    January 3, 2016 at 3:25 pm #45988
    Carl Blare
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    Yes, “brrr” is a chilling sensation hearing these tales of being snagged in the net, but it’s also the sound I heard over my right shoulder when I opened the hatch on the back of the car to retrieve groceries.

    How often does a bee or wasp hover right outside your periferal vision where it can get a good look what’s inside the back of the car?

    I tried to turn and get a good look at whatever it was but it kept dodging out of view.

    January 3, 2016 at 8:36 pm #45993
    winter4w
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    Now I think I might know whats going on. If you are useing Google you could have your google account logged in. If you are useing the same account on his PC that you have on yours then it could be showing the stuff you looked up in ads. However for me to know forsure what is causeing it ill need more info on what you were useing such as… 

    What web brower were you useing and were they both the same?

    Did you use your account to buy the barstool? (Such as same Amazon account ect..)

    Were you logged into google when you serched this up?

    Do you both use the same ISP?

     

    There are some ways to reslove this issue (With your browser). One is to use a Private Serch. On most browsers there is a mode where it does not store any data what so ever. So if you close that window there is no History, Chacade, Cookes, ect stored. Most ad sites use cookies so if you clear your browseing cookies that should remove a majory if ads following you around. 

     

    My last possible thought would be a virus. I dought this since it seems nothing got stolen and most viruses steel data, crash PC’s, and steel. If your ISP is spying on you (wich I wont be shocked if ISP’s do follow people) it wont make much sence because I dont think they will know who is useing the PC at the time.

     

    I am in I.T. so I got a good grasp on PC’s 🙂 If you guys do have trouble I can help you with that.

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