- Posts
Total posts : 45366Actually the FCC does not view part 15 as a radio station. In fact, in that 1972 rejection letter I believe the FCC makes the point that it never intended part 15 to serve the public.
Total posts : 45366Part 15 covers “unlicensed operation”. Stations require a license. The FCC will not license a station to use less than 1W ERP. Part 15 is much-much less than 1W, so it is not a station. https://www.fcc.gov/media/radio/low-power-radio-general-information
Total posts : 45366Druid John opened with the question: “Does the FCC Consider Part 15 Operators Broadcasters?”
Nowhere in the part 15 rules is any reference made to part 15 operators.
HOWEVER, in Part 73 we CAN and WILL make the case that the FCC defines part 15 operators… Consider this:
73.3550 Requests for new or modified call sign assignments.
(1) Users of nonlicensed, low power devices operating under part 15 of this chapter may use whatever identification is currently desired, so long as propriety is observed and no confusion results with a station for which the FCC issues a license.
I bolded the key words that spell it out.
Reading FCC rules is like reading the Bible. You hunt around until you find a phrase that suits your needs and then drink to it.
Total posts : 45366Good grief..
Yeah, what Carl said, and…
Almost every NOUO refers to Part 15 operations as “broadcast stations”
Most FCC public notices makes reference to Part 15 operations as “broadcast station” or “radio facilities”
The FCC Inspection fact sheet refers to as “radio installations” and “radio equipment of non-licensees”, and “This language covers your low-power radio station.” when refering to non-licensedcees.
Even the FCC agents field manual refers to part 15ers as “AM broadcaster”
What the 1972 document says: The intent of Part 15 is to provide the radio enthusiast with an opportunity to experiment with radio, and to entertain friends or neighbors within a very limited communication range. The Commission never intended that Part 15 be used to establish a low power broadcast facility to service an entire community.
What the FCC may have “intended” when writing the FCC laws, has no bearing on the letter of the law, neither for, nor against.
Total posts : 45366Even the FCC Advisory which came out today says:
“the Commission has authorized the operation of certain low power radios pursuant to Part 15 of the Commission’s Rules. As a result, operators of these radio facilities are not required to have individual licenses. However, these operators are required to operate their stations in a manner consistent with the Commission’s operational and technical rules for those services…”
http://transition.fcc.gov/Daily_Releases/Daily_Business/2016/db0301/DA-16-159A1.pdf
The FCC considers us radio stations.. Why dont you?!
We are in the eyes of the FCC and the world: Part 15 Radio Stations.
Total posts : 45366… What the FCC may have “intended” when writing the FCC laws, has no bearing on the letter of the law, neither for, nor against.
With the possible exceptions of the conclusions of unlicensed and self-defined “broadcasters” receiving an FCC NOUO for non-compliance with Part 15 (AM and/or FM).
… However, these operators are required to operate their stations in a manner consistent with the Commission’s operational and technical rules for those services…”
A “station” is not the same as a _broadcast_ station. There are many other classes of stations, such as those operated by 2-way comm services, amateur radio operators, etc.
Total posts : 45366KDX Worldround Radio is an International Radio Broadcasting Station authorized under Part 15.
This FACT is enabled by 73.3550 …MAY USE WHATEVER IDENTIFICATION IS CURRENTLY DESIRED.
If you make up your own rules please don’t attribute them to the FCC.
Total posts : 45366@Rich: A “station” is not the same as a broadcast station.
Yeah? what about the line imeadiatly preceeding that: “operators of these radio facilities:
what about all the other terms used by the FCC for part 15 stations?
“broadcast stations”
“radio facilities”
“radio installations”
“radio equipment of non-licensees”,
“This language covers your low-power radio station.” (when refering to part 15)
“AM broadcaster”Are all those not the same as a broadcast station too?
Total posts : 45366… Are all those not the same as a broadcast station too?
AM/FM/TV broadcast stations are set up and authorized to serve the general public over an extended coverage area (70,000 square miles or more for some 50 kW AM broadcast stations) — quite a different application and result than that permitted by a compliant AM operation under Part 15, and 2-way comm or ham setups.
Total posts : 45366Hmm.. seems you avoid my question
Those are the terms used by the FCC in the above examples are all in reference to our part 15 stations.. They were not talking about TV, Hams, or Licenced AM/FM stations.. The FCC use those terms for part 15 operations repeatably.
Total posts : 45366What are you going to do about the fact that KDX is a radio broadcasting station under part 15 authorization?
Total posts : 45366(8) … KDX Worldround Radio is an International Radio Broadcasting Station authorized under Part 15. This FACT is enabled by 73.3550 …MAY USE WHATEVER IDENTIFICATION IS CURRENTLY DESIRED. If you make up your own rules please don’t attribute them to the FCC.
(12) What are you going to do about the fact that KDX is a radio broadcasting station under part 15 authorization?
Mr Blare failed to quote the complete text of FCC §73.3550 in Reply 8, which includes the following (bold attributes added): … so long as propriety is observed and no confusion results with a station for which the FCC issues a license.
Just to note that 3-letter calls beginning with the letter “K” are now and have for many decades been assigned by the FCC to, and used by various licensed stations.
Mr Blare likely will rebut this post with a statement that the FCC has licensed no broadcast station to use the call letters KDX, so he is entitled to use them.
Whether or not that conclusion meets the legal requirements of FCC §73.3550 is left to others to decide.
Total posts : 45366Even with the including the “ no confusion results with a station for which the FCC issues a license.” statement, I do not perceive anything about Carls KDX identification as being in any way any kind of violation with the rule.
Propriety is observed and there is no confusion with a station which the FCC has issued a lisence
Total posts : 45366There are many excellent books profiling dogmatists and they (the books) all agree that arguing with them (the persons of dogma) is a useless excersize. Such has been the case with this character.
Over in the thread on the Initiative our dogmatic fellow posted a half-assed propaganda peice intended to demonstrate that part 15 broadcasting pollutes the spectrum by generating interference. Perhaps a joke in the style of Scalia?
Feel free to find against me all you want, just hoping you don’t take ACTION (a word you post in the form of a threat stated on behalf of the FCC).
It remains undisclosed who (or whom) you actually represent. Are you self-empowered as the guardian of millwatts? Hard to imagine that any government agency or corporate entity would send such an obvious plant.
- You must be logged in to reply to this topic.
