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- December 30, 2015 at 2:32 pm #10256
How many of you are pulling the plug with the new royality rates?
December 30, 2015 at 5:11 pm #45918Carl Blare
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Total posts : 45366On Low Power Hour No. 102, the same show that carried a detailed report from Trident Digital regarding the new Copyright Royalty Board rates, I announced that the 3 streams of KDX Worldround Radio would close as of midnight December 31, 2015. That’s tomorrow night.
Since making that announcement I’ve been arguing in my own head about why I would shut down, since the rates don’t pertain to my station which avoids carrying copyright music.
If I shut down the only meaningful reason would be as a stand of solidarity with webcasters who are being disadvantaged by the new rates, but it would amount to little more than an empty gesture since the world doesn’t turn on whether I stream or not.
I see this as a larger issue… the entrenched communications industry wants to squash the small operators who siphen off what big business wants as a captive audience. Copyright crack-downs give them a convenient means to exterminate much of the entrepreneurial operators.
Taking an even larger-scale view of how the world operates… the only reason so many people are allowed to live is to provide a customer base for predatory corporate businesses and bloated government taxing authorities.
Small-time inventors and innovators have always been no more than a pool to steal from and do away with.
The general population is allowed to believe they are free.. starting as soon as they “achieve” some dream, which is rarely allowed to materialize.
All this is taking place while the planet is in its death throes.
Our small-mindedness as part 15 people somewhat insulates us from big ideas, so I’ll stop talking about it for now.
December 30, 2015 at 5:31 pm #45919Thelegacy
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Total posts : 45366There is a service called DJC Media and AdsWizz. I set my ad triggers for every 4th song and this might change to every hard song. This helps to pay for the heavy cost of royalty licensing. I suggest if you want to be legal to take this route and go to DJC media’s website. This way you can continue business as usual. If it had not been for these guys my station would have been off the internet years ago. Remember I lost almost everything but the clothes on my hack but due to this company I was able to stay afloat.
December 30, 2015 at 5:42 pm #45920Thelegacy
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Total posts : 45366There is a service called DJC Media which uses icecast version 2 as a server. they also use trigger files to inject ads which can help for the high cost of royalty licensing. What I do is play an ad after every 4th song. Due to the rate in the royalty cost I may have to change it to every third song or second song. Every time you have a listener that hears the ad it counts for one impression. You get paid by the number of Adam impressions. this is the way you can legally broadcast and not cost you an arm and a leg.
December 30, 2015 at 11:06 pm #45930timinbovey
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Total posts : 45366OK, I have to ask just to satisfy my own curiosities.
“Indie. No royalties necessary” For this to be true, you are playing independent musicians/bands who are not affiliated with any PRO, label, etc. That I get. But they must also be performing all original material. If they do a cover song, royalties are due. If you are actually pulling this off, my hats off to you. Of course their songs are copyrighted, but they own and control their own copyright so can certainly let you play ’em all you want. I considered a format such as this as there actually is an abundance of indie music — but to much of it was horrible — and I just didn’t think I could fill out a full time station with any sort of music that would work, and too much trouble being sure there were no cover songs.
Carl: Where are you finding music with no copyright? Now, granted, if you’re playing Beethoven and Mozart, the tunes are certainly in the public domain, so you would never have to pay any of the PROs any royalties. And you could play all the PD music over the air with no royalties to your hearts content. But for streaming the performers get paid through SoundExchange. So unless you have your own hired orchestra performing the music, for streaming you would still have to be paying SoundExchange, but not BMI, ASCAP, etc as they collect royalties for writers and pre-1922 is public domain for the songs, but not for the performance. But if you’re streaming, say Beethovens 5th Symphony performed by the New York Philharmonic, SoundExchange will expect royalties for the orchestra.
Ah, the Devil’s in the details.
Just hadda ask.
TIB
December 30, 2015 at 11:17 pm #45933Carl Blare
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Total posts : 45366Toe in the water.
Here is one source of “free music.”
Another is
For classical music performance
http://www.gardnermuseum.org/music/listen
There are more, I have posted many links in the past.
Oh, and Tim, I would like your view on the issue of music recorded prior to 1972. According to Triton Digital, Sound Exchange has no claim on records released prior to 1972, and if they contain public domain classics, neither do the publishers.
December 31, 2015 at 2:23 am #45935macdev
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Total posts : 45366I go through Live365, and I got their letter today. I’m apalled that this is what streaming rates have become. I don’t know what I’m doing yet, it depends on what happens with Live365.
December 31, 2015 at 5:07 am #45938mram1500
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Total posts : 45366The majority of these artists recorded originals at our studio. They gave their permission to air their music.
Others come from websites for indie artists performing originals.
December 31, 2015 at 10:19 am #45939timinbovey
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Total posts : 45366Grom the copyright office:
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The U.S. Copyright Office has issued its report on Federal Copyright Protection for Pre-1972 Sound Recordings, as required under the Omnibus Appropriations Act of 2009. The report, prepared after receiving written and oral input from stakeholders, recommends that sound recordings made before February 15, 1972 be brought into the federal copyright regime.
“The Copyright Office is grateful for the opportunity to explore this issue and to assist Congress in addressing how best to preserve and offer appropriate access to these works that are such an important part of our cultural patrimony,” said Register of Copyrights Maria A. Pallante. “We believe that bringing pre-1972 sound recordings into the federal copyright system serves the interests of consistency and certainty, and will assist libraries and archives in carrying out their missions while also offering additional rights and protection for sound recording right holders.”
Although sound recordings were first given federal copyright protection in 1972, sound recordings made before February 15, 1972 remained protected under state law rather than under the federal copyright statute. As a result, there are a variety of legal regimes governing protection of pre-1972 sound recordings in the various states, and the scope of protection and of exceptions and limitations to that protection is unclear. Current law provides that pre-1972 sound recordings may remain protected under state law until February 15, 2067. After that date they will enter the public domain.”
And from PDinfo.com:
“There are several U.S. websites claiming that sound recordings made in the United States prior to February 15, 1972, are in the public domain, and there are links to U.S. Copyright Office publications stating: “Sound recordings fixed before February 15, 1972, are not eligible for Federal copyright protection.” It is quite true that pre-1972 sound recordings have no federal copyright protection, but they are still well protected under state law. Virtually every sound recording in the USA is copyright protected at least until the year 2067.”
This falls into the “we all wish the “no copyright before 1972” claim was true and some choose to believe it, but there is no actual paperwork to document that, at all. It may not be federally covered right now, but it is by state laws. And my guess is, with the work currently underway, pre ’72 recordings will also be covered under federal law as well within the next 1-2 years.
TIB
December 31, 2015 at 2:09 pm #45940wdcx
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Total posts : 45366Carl: What streaming provider are you using?
December 31, 2015 at 4:00 pm #45942kc8gpd
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Total posts : 45366they are going to squeeze the golden goose too hard and then no one will air or play their crap, everyone will go talk or indie because they simply won’t be able to afford to play main stream artists anymore.
December 31, 2015 at 4:14 pm #45943kc8gpd
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Total posts : 45366i’m pulling it, i’m disabled and can’t really make much money before loss of benefits and i don’t know how to do business book keeping and starting a 501c3 to shield myself from the income so i just have to cut the stream soon because i can’t afford the new rates on my income alone.
December 31, 2015 at 4:52 pm #45944Marathon Don
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Total posts : 45366I’ll cease streaming licensed music tonight at midnight. We have some prepaid time with the stream host, plus I don’t want to lose my spot on the various directories, so I’ll keep some placeholder audio online for the short term. I’m hoping something will get worked out. In the meantime, the SStran 5000 is out of mothballs and rockin’ around the block.
December 31, 2015 at 5:08 pm #45945Thelegacy
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Total posts : 45366Here is a free and legal options that you can use its called radionomy and as far as I know they pay royalties. You just have to be sure to keep your listener count high otherwise they will give you the axe. Try them and see what happens.
December 31, 2015 at 6:32 pm #45947Carl Blare
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Total posts : 45366The cost of the newly conived CRB rates is the problem that gets most attention, but for small hobby stations another impossibility is the reporting requirment which I think requires informing them…
What you played, when you played it, and how many listeners were connected to hear each song.
Single operators would never have time to both run their station and do reporting for the slavemaster.
In government it’s called an unfunded mandate.
In essence you become an informant on yourself at your own expense.
There is no way of actually knowing whether a connection to your server is a listener or simply a corporate troll looking for violators. Also, the collection goons could easily generate false connections to your server to increase their earnings.
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