TIGER TEAMS

This guy along with two others had SWAT teams from the local sheriff's office, ATF and the FCC show up.

http://www.criminalgovernment.com/pix/index.html

The picture of agent Brian Marenco seen in "Destruction of Satellite Receiving Dish" reveals a sloppy dresser poorly groomed taking juvenile delight in criminal vandalism.

Even Adolf Hitler knew that men showing up wearing lederhosen wouldn't look good so he supplied cool uniforms for his assassins and jackboot thugs.

Get some style Homeland.

Wow the NAB is gonna resort to that?  Hmmm well just hope they never break the rules.  I mean look at what Howard stern did on Radio.  He us truly an example of how many commercial stations don't and refuse to follow rules.  I've heard on air mind you a DJ named Jazz McKay in Lansing Michigan use the phrases like "If you don't like what comes out of my mouth why don't you stick your tongue in my mouth and you'd love that".  Now surely that is a prime example of how we should run a Radio station isn't it?  Until the NAB can learn to follow the rules they have no room to complain about Johnny Quarter mile.

This is what you can expect. This FCC raid was real.

So you mean to tell me that someone has a part 15 transmitter and he puts out 270 uV/M instead of 250 @ 3 meters (10 foot) and he could be raided like this?  Or does someone have to put out some serious power to get that sort of treatment?  I'd surely hope the latter.

...someone has a part 15 transmitter and he puts out 270 uV/M instead of 250 @ 3 meters (10 foot) and he could be raided like this? ...

The link in Reply 4 of the thread referenced below shows some radiated fields that came to the attention of the FCC a few years ago, and the power needed to produce them over a free space path.

http://www.part15.us/forum/part15-forums/general-discussion/fcc-actions-against-fm

... here's the info:

The prudence used by the FCC in past years is old style.

The "Tiger Team" approach appears to be a "shoot first" rush to judgement not hampered by unmanly minutia.

The "civilian" is left to legally "prove" he has legal rights. It's a trend in law.

It would be naive to trust the field intensity numbers claimed by invaders.

Yeah, it doesn't take much power to get significant FM range, particularly with a good elevated antenna.  For example, if your field strength at 3 meters is 28000uv/m, at 3000 meters (almost 2 miles), it would be 28 uv/m - line of sight, of course.  That is easily heard by a car FM radio.  And that's just with a power output of 0.15mw.

... For example, if your field strength at 3 meters is 28000uv/m, at 3000 meters (almost 2 miles), it would be 28 uv/m - line of sight, of course.  That is easily heard by a car FM radio.  And that's just with a power output of 0.15mw.

Given that it can take only 0.15 mW applied to a 1/2-wave dipole to produce a field strength that is over 100 times the legal value permitted by FCC, then why would manufacturers offer, and anyone consider buying such a transmitter rated for an output power rating approaching/exceeding that?

The most likely reasons are these (in some combination):

• The manufacturers/users of such transmitters have not done the needed research for compliance with FCC §15.239
• The manufacturers/users of such transmitters have done the research research for compliance with FCC §15.239, but decided to take the risk of an FCC action.

... For example, if your field strength at 3 meters is 28000uv/m, at 3000 meters (almost 2 miles), it would be 28 uv/m - line of sight, of course.  That is easily heard by a car FM radio.  And that's just with a power output of 0.15mw.

Given that it can take only 0.15 mW applied to a 1/2-wave dipole to produce a field strength that is over 100 times the legal value permitted by the FCC, then why would manufacturers offer to sell, and anyone consider buying a transmitter rated for an output power rating approaching/exceeding that?

The most likely reasons are these (in some combination):

• The manufacturers/users of such transmitters have not done the needed research for compliance with FCC §15.239
• The manufacturers/users of such transmitters have done the needed research for compliance with FCC §15.239, but decided to take the risk of an FCC action by selling/using a non-compliant transmit system.

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Added later:  My Reply #12 here supplants my Reply #11 here.

The preceeding is posed as an "either/or" choice, and I think either one of those might explain the over-powered FM transmitters available for sale.

We don't know how massive the problem really is from a blissful public buying those transmitters everyday and broadcasting without thought of checking the rules.

A news reporter might try to get the sales numbers from ebay or the sellers and check out the buyers to see what they're doing.

Giving 1-Watt for hobbyists wouldn't solve anything because the demand is greater than the supply for room on the FM band and there is no satisfactory solution.

Why can't we all just get along with AM?

... Why can't we all just get along with AM?

Aren't Part 15 FCC Rules applying to unlicensed AM systems at least as equally misunderstood and misapplied as those for unlicensed FM systems?

Rich saying - "Aren't Part 15 FCC Rules applying to unlicensed AM systems at least as equally misunderstood and misapplied as those for unlicensed FM systems?"

That's a question to which I don't know the answer.

Back to Add: But the question is a jump away from the original discussion, so we need to re-rail the discussion.

We were discussing the ready availability of over-powered FM transmitters... the same is certainly not true of AM transmitters...

Another key point is the crowding of the FM band and the willful push to use FM as a preference with prejudice for AM...

But then... "rules equally misunderstood and misapplied..." well, perhaps on some days, but not equally sought... so I'd say...

FM is less understood and the Rules misapplied more aften than with AM.

What relevant information might you have to offer?