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 MICRO1700
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I just wanted to send up a flag saying

that this project (as named above) is

starting to happen.  

It's a big fat coil which will load up a 

Part 15 AM "3 meter" stick.

I have built several in the past.  I built one

many years ago for a Ramsey AM-1 transmitter

which had been modified for crystal control.  

With this coil and some radials and a 3 meter

stick, I was able to get the AM-1 to transmit

to around 1/2 mile or so.  

I made another one for my SS-Tran AMT-3000

years later.  The furthest that transmitter "went"

was 2 miles.  The SS-Tran was modified, somewhat,

though.

This coil is made out of junk, really.  It is just

another experiment that is going on here.   

It is not a polished project like some of the

great work I have seen here on the board

fairly recently.

It's just a test coil, using a variometer and

a movable ferrite rod, with lots of coil taps.

Anyway, I'll be reporting on this.

A parallel project is a magnetic receiving loop

for HF.  These kinds of things are fun and don't

cost much.

Oh yeah, if you are not familiar with variometers -

Google is where you want to go.  There is not much

to a variometer and it is fun.

Best Wishes,

Brooce, Part 15, Hartford, CT  

 


 
Posted : 07/11/2016 8:51 pm
 Anonymous
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I had mentioned the term "variometer."

Then I suggested that if one wasn't familiar

with the term - it could be "Googled" and that

would give good information.

It turns out I was wrong.  Variometer means

different things to different people and it is

a very old term.  

So anyhow - a variometer for a Part 15 AM

antenna loading coil is just another coil with

a rotatable coil inside it.  It can be part of

"the main coil" or it can be separate and

put in line before or after the big coil.  

In a variometer with it's 2 coils, I have connected

these coils in series in my past experiments.  

Rotate the inner coil and the inductance of

"the whole thing" can be varied.

Here's somewhat of a connection.  

So there is a "new" amateur radio band

that is in operation in some parts of

the world (but not in the U.S.) 

This small band runs from 472 to 479 kHz.

Canada has that ham band and I have

monitored some stations there.  Usually

you don't hear much between 472 and 479,

but there are scheduled operating events

every once in a while and a bunch of stations

get on there.  There are also some hams in

the U.S. that have STAs to operate in the

allocation, and I have heard a few of them

with just a Sony ICF-2010 receiver out in

the front yard.  

Hams refer to this band as "600 meters."

There is a lot of homebrew experimentation

going on there.  Hams use homemade variometers

to tune transmit antennas.  It sounds like a ton of

fun to operate there.  However, for a variety of

reasons, the U.S. does not have the allocation

approved and I wonder if it ever will happen.

Some of the LF and MF experimenter websites

show pictures of variometers.

Oh yeah - this band, as it is around the world,

does not have a voice allocation.  The operating

modes are morse code and all kinds of cool

digitial modes.

I would really like to get on there (I have a

ham license) but I have barely had time to

get my portable 40 meter QRP rig running.

That is just starting to happen.

Anyway, it's all cool.

I hope this is helpful to anyone who

is interested in this sort of thing.  Please

excuse any spelling or grammatical errors. 

Brooce, Part 15, Hartford CT 


 
Posted : 07/11/2016 9:42 pm
 Anonymous
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I think a variometer is probably the most efficient and most adjustable tuner at the same time. I knew about them being used in early radios around the 1920s, before the advent of the Superheterodyne and the change over to variable condensers. Instead, the variometer varied the inductance, with a fixed condenser.

In the usual Part-15 transmitter, you have a large fixed coil, maybe with taps and a small variable capacitor between the antenna side of the coil to ground. The little trimmer cap can tune your antenna on frequency and make it most efficient, but also acts as a load on the output and it steals some power. If you can eliminate the trimmer and use a pure coil, then loss is reduced and you should get more power into your antenna.


 
Posted : 09/11/2016 1:24 pm
 Anonymous
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I've got a few comments about 

Part 15 AM transmitter coils.

I'll be back in a little while.

Brooce


 
Posted : 09/11/2016 10:31 pm
 Anonymous
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chimes in on efficiency of tapped coils with tunable cap vs. verometers.


 
Posted : 10/11/2016 7:40 am
 Anonymous
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So my coils from the past were "designed"

(haha) for the highest Q I could get.

(And From the info I knew at the time. There

was no way to measure the Q - it was all

trail, error, and "look-and-see-what-happens.")

The coil for the Ramsey (this was about 13 years

ago) was made on a HUGE bucket from the hardware

store.  The bucket was so big and the turns were so

far around that I had so put several coil taps on each

turn that was tapped.  Sometimes if I was taking turns

off or putting them on in order to try to tune the thing -

it was hard to tell where the turn ended and the antenna

started.  The bucket was so BIG that it was easy to put

a small bucket on the inside for the variometer coil form.

That thing put out a pretty good field.  Some radios ceased

to function when placed next to that coil.  It was tons of

fun and very inexpensive.  The Ramsey AM-1 (all I had at

the time) did pretty well.  One thing about that AM-1 -

I had to use an audio equalizer to get maximum modulation.

And the modulation I got may not have been 100%.

The coil I made for the SS-Tran a few years later had a much

smaller diameter.  I think the PVC pipe was 3 inches wide.

It had lots of coil taps.  I now know taps aren't great for Q but this

was an experiment anyway.  The coil was fine tuned with a

ferrite rod from an AM radio in the junkpile.  I did not take the

 RF output from from the SS-Tran in the usual place (the rear

antenna jack.)  Instead, I took it from the final transistor line

after the DC blocking cap.  After tons and tons of trial and 

error - this seemed to be the best way to do it.  

It was so much fun.  I can't wait to start building this

next coil.  It will be different from the other two.  

Brooce

 


 
Posted : 10/11/2016 10:39 pm
 Anonymous
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hey bruce, i got an antenna analyzer. i'd be interested to see what the curve and readings from that are. we both live in whalers nation


 
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