The FCC of recent years has been bombarded by radio amateurs and others regarding contractual covenants and restrictions. The FCC has had plenty of opportunity to address all the concerns. The feds have chosen, for statutorial reasons, the remain on the fence and rule neither for radio operators or for HOA's. The official stance has been to allow Congress to wrestle with news laws concerning the issues involved with CC&R's.
HOA's are historically run by a small group of homeowners who are chosen by the neighborhood to ensure the security and integrity of the neighborhood. Having lived in Las Vegas with 2 million population and 95 percent of new homes in HOA's, it seems somewhat simplistic to say HOA's preserve the value of homes in those neighborhoods when 1 out of 30 homes in Clark County are in foreclosure and most homes have lost nearly ten percent in value in the last year because people have simply defaulted on the loans. Now, how do you suggest HOA's control that sort of bedlam?
I have never fully agreed with "mob rule". And coming from Vegas, I understand mob rule.
Marshall Johnson, Sr.
President & General Manger
Rhema Radio - The Word In Worship
The Dalles, Oregon, USA
http://www.rhemaradio.org
The FCC of recent years has been bombarded by radio amateurs and others regarding contractual covenants and restrictions. The FCC has had plenty of opportunity to address all the concerns. The feds have chosen, for statutorial reasons, the remain on the fence and rule neither for radio operators or for HOA's. The official stance has been to allow Congress to wrestle with news laws concerning the issues involved with CC&R's.
HOA's are historically run by a small group of homeowners who are chosen by the neighborhood to ensure the security and integrity of the neighborhood. Having lived in Las Vegas with 2 million population and 95 percent of new homes in HOA's, it seems somewhat simplistic to say HOA's preserve the value of homes in those neighborhoods when 1 out of 30 homes in Clark County are in foreclosure and most homes have lost nearly ten percent in value in the last year because people have simply defaulted on the loans. Now, how do you suggest HOA's control that sort of bedlam?
I have never fully agreed with "mob rule". And coming from Vegas, I understand mob rule.
Marshall Johnson, Sr.
President & General Manger
Rhema Radio - The Word In Worship
The Dalles, Oregon, USA
http://www.rhemaradio.org
I helped a fellow Amateur radio operator get some antennas up in his "community". I had him get permission for the following; A flagpole and a clothesline. We gutted the fiberglass radome from an old SuperStationmaster antenna and put a trap vertical inside it with a rope and pulley for his flag,planted in his yard and nobody is the wiser. The clothesline,you guessed it,was aluminum wire-a perfect dipole setup was deployed. There are many ways around it if you are smart and resourceful. We ran some #22awg wire along the roof's ridgeline where the Cobra vent is,a beautiful longwire 250 feet along his condo! We also ran some #22 to a tree(late at night)some 120 feet away. Keep trying!!! It has been done!
Regards,Lee
http://www.freewebs.com/wilcomlabs/index.htm
I helped a fellow Amateur radio operator get some antennas up in his "community". I had him get permission for the following; A flagpole and a clothesline. We gutted the fiberglass radome from an old SuperStationmaster antenna and put a trap vertical inside it with a rope and pulley for his flag,planted in his yard and nobody is the wiser. The clothesline,you guessed it,was aluminum wire-a perfect dipole setup was deployed. There are many ways around it if you are smart and resourceful. We ran some #22awg wire along the roof's ridgeline where the Cobra vent is,a beautiful longwire 250 feet along his condo! We also ran some #22 to a tree(late at night)some 120 feet away. Keep trying!!! It has been done!
Regards,Lee
http://www.freewebs.com/wilcomlabs/index.htm
Marshall,
It's been a while since I have seen your posts here and it is good to read your input again.
Foreclosure is not good when it happens to anyone, but according to your numbers 29 out of 30 are not being foreclosed in the area you cited, meaning 97% are not being foreclosed. Since I do not know the particulars, I cannot comment further about this specific area
It is not the responsibility of our HOA to prevent foreclosures and I don't believe you so asserted. Contrary to some opinions expressed on the HOA subject, several of my neighbors have told me that a factor they considered when choosing to live here was the HOA oversight. At least in their minds, there is some value added.
Perhaps your experience differs from mine since you wrote:
HOA's are historically run by a small group of homeowners who are chosen by the neighborhood to ensure the security and integrity of the neighborhood.
This is not what we do here. Our two responsibilites are to maintain the common property areas and to monitor that external property projects conform to the agreed to deed covenants and restrictions. We do not address the security and integrity (not sure what you mean by that) of the neighborhood.
In my 20 years of involvement with our HOA I recall only one instance where a proposal by a property owner was challenged. I was President of the HOA at the time and the issue concerned a new build. The resolution came by the property owner hiring a consulting architect with the provision that the HOA would take his input under advisement and he affirmed the HOA's position on this.
Back to antennas, it has never come up here but I would be very sympathetic to anyone if they had a reasonable proposal.
I admit that perhaps our HOA wields a light hand when compared to others but I don't accept categorically that HOAs are not useful.
Neil
Marshall,
It's been a while since I have seen your posts here and it is good to read your input again.
Foreclosure is not good when it happens to anyone, but according to your numbers 29 out of 30 are not being foreclosed in the area you cited, meaning 97% are not being foreclosed. Since I do not know the particulars, I cannot comment further about this specific area
It is not the responsibility of our HOA to prevent foreclosures and I don't believe you so asserted. Contrary to some opinions expressed on the HOA subject, several of my neighbors have told me that a factor they considered when choosing to live here was the HOA oversight. At least in their minds, there is some value added.
Perhaps your experience differs from mine since you wrote:
HOA's are historically run by a small group of homeowners who are chosen by the neighborhood to ensure the security and integrity of the neighborhood.
This is not what we do here. Our two responsibilites are to maintain the common property areas and to monitor that external property projects conform to the agreed to deed covenants and restrictions. We do not address the security and integrity (not sure what you mean by that) of the neighborhood.
In my 20 years of involvement with our HOA I recall only one instance where a proposal by a property owner was challenged. I was President of the HOA at the time and the issue concerned a new build. The resolution came by the property owner hiring a consulting architect with the provision that the HOA would take his input under advisement and he affirmed the HOA's position on this.
Back to antennas, it has never come up here but I would be very sympathetic to anyone if they had a reasonable proposal.
I admit that perhaps our HOA wields a light hand when compared to others but I don't accept categorically that HOAs are not useful.
Neil
Neil,
Your experience, and those of many untold thousands, have been mostly positive over the years. I agree with your assessment of your HOA. However, in the "gated communities" of Las Vegas, security and integrity of the neighborhood DO come into play. I took a look at the possibility of living in a gated community. Because the people who live in these homes don't have to be the payer of the mortgage (renters of investment property), and because the crime rate is so high in the Las Vegas Valley, security and integrity are issues being dealt with in many CC&R's. In the last couple of years new homes were built that could not be sold by traditional means to single family buyers. So, they were sold to whom ever could finance them. And many times multiple homes were sold to the same investor. A truly ugly real estate market for the regular guy.
In most neighborhoods "out West", banks own the foreclosed property. I am curious how the HOA would help in the prevention of foreclosure. With minimum wage at $5.68 an hour, incomes are not elevated in Nevada. Of course, no personal income tax is helpful.
In Las Vegas, North Las Vegas, Summerlin, Green Valley, Henderson and the remainder of Clark County, flag poles and anything resembling a clothes line or wire apparatus falls under county code. You see, Nevada only recently passed their PRB-1 Bill. And you are correct, Part 15 broadcasting is not a "protected" service. Under the state's "amateur antenna bill", even when erecting a tower in Southern Nevada, a licensed radio operator is still required to show a certified engineering study and pay all non-refundable fees before the structure is considered for construction and built. No permit and here comes Metro and the Marshals. Loading hand rails, chain link fence, gutters. wires hidden under the eaves or run through the attic, wires run across the roof, even antennas mounted on parked vehicles are used in this part of the country.
I suspect that your superior leadership and persuasive arguments have allowed the HOA in which you reside to work so well. Because the HOA's I am familiar with; DON'T work so well.
Marshall Johnson, Sr.
President & General Manger
Rhema Radio - The Word In Worship
The Dalles, Oregon, USA
http://www.rhemaradio.org
Neil,
Your experience, and those of many untold thousands, have been mostly positive over the years. I agree with your assessment of your HOA. However, in the "gated communities" of Las Vegas, security and integrity of the neighborhood DO come into play. I took a look at the possibility of living in a gated community. Because the people who live in these homes don't have to be the payer of the mortgage (renters of investment property), and because the crime rate is so high in the Las Vegas Valley, security and integrity are issues being dealt with in many CC&R's. In the last couple of years new homes were built that could not be sold by traditional means to single family buyers. So, they were sold to whom ever could finance them. And many times multiple homes were sold to the same investor. A truly ugly real estate market for the regular guy.
In most neighborhoods "out West", banks own the foreclosed property. I am curious how the HOA would help in the prevention of foreclosure. With minimum wage at $5.68 an hour, incomes are not elevated in Nevada. Of course, no personal income tax is helpful.
In Las Vegas, North Las Vegas, Summerlin, Green Valley, Henderson and the remainder of Clark County, flag poles and anything resembling a clothes line or wire apparatus falls under county code. You see, Nevada only recently passed their PRB-1 Bill. And you are correct, Part 15 broadcasting is not a "protected" service. Under the state's "amateur antenna bill", even when erecting a tower in Southern Nevada, a licensed radio operator is still required to show a certified engineering study and pay all non-refundable fees before the structure is considered for construction and built. No permit and here comes Metro and the Marshals. Loading hand rails, chain link fence, gutters. wires hidden under the eaves or run through the attic, wires run across the roof, even antennas mounted on parked vehicles are used in this part of the country.
I suspect that your superior leadership and persuasive arguments have allowed the HOA in which you reside to work so well. Because the HOA's I am familiar with; DON'T work so well.
Marshall Johnson, Sr.
President & General Manger
Rhema Radio - The Word In Worship
The Dalles, Oregon, USA
http://www.rhemaradio.org
Marshall,
Thanks for expanding your remarks re HOAs. We have very few gated areas here so that didn't occur to me in my previous post.
Since the subject of antennas never came before my HOA, I have no experience to relate other than the City Code requires a construction permit and an inspection for outside antennas, as would apply to any primary electrical work. This is not to restrict antennas but rather to ensure safety.
On the other hand, if someone proposed erecting a 200 foot tower in a residential area it would not surprise me if there would be a zoning issue raised and resistance encountered from the City.
Personally, I don't see why anyone would object to a SSTRAN type antenna but apparently, according to some posters, people do and it appears that some HOAs micromanage things beyond what is done here. That is certainly a real problem for some.
Regarding stealth antennas, some good suggestions have been offered above and I have nothing to add.
Neil
Marshall,
Thanks for expanding your remarks re HOAs. We have very few gated areas here so that didn't occur to me in my previous post.
Since the subject of antennas never came before my HOA, I have no experience to relate other than the City Code requires a construction permit and an inspection for outside antennas, as would apply to any primary electrical work. This is not to restrict antennas but rather to ensure safety.
On the other hand, if someone proposed erecting a 200 foot tower in a residential area it would not surprise me if there would be a zoning issue raised and resistance encountered from the City.
Personally, I don't see why anyone would object to a SSTRAN type antenna but apparently, according to some posters, people do and it appears that some HOAs micromanage things beyond what is done here. That is certainly a real problem for some.
Regarding stealth antennas, some good suggestions have been offered above and I have nothing to add.
Neil