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Hi. Hello, I've been lurking but not posting for awhile.
Anyway, a question..

Hi. Hello, I've been lurking but not posting for awhile.
Anyway, a question..
I'm replacing 23 copper fence caps with solar caps, so I have 23 scrap 6x6" copper plates formed in the shape of short pyramids.
I've been wondering how they potentially might be of benefit for a roof mount groundplane? -- and if so, what would be the best way to unite the individual plates, and would it be better to flatten them? or leave them in pyramid shaped?

Each one weighs around 3 or 4 ounces I guess.. I don't know but it's like stiff solid copper sheets, and it seems to me it could be useful.

Could these be used in construction of a groundplane with any benefit?


 
Posted : 29/10/2011 6:46 pm
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Why not assemble them all to form a larger pyramid you can sit in and absorb all the healing energies the pyramid creates.

Or put them all together in a flat pattern and have the pointed ends facing down into the dirt. With 23 6 inch points going into the ground, that should help with a unique ground system.

RFB


 
Posted : 30/10/2011 2:48 pm
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I absolutely love triangles, tetrahedrons and pyramids, and I very much want to believe that there is some way to employ them in antenna design.

WHAT IF a ground plane made out of multiple copper pyramids was the most better RF ground system EVER (bad English was deliberate because it made me laugh).

Even though "pyramid power" has been turned into a joke, I think there might be something going on.


 
Posted : 30/10/2011 2:58 pm
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"Even though "pyramid power" has been turned into a joke, I think there might be something going on."

Many of the standards we use today, such as time measurement, the charting of the cosmos, the naming of planets, and description of this world's reality and everything in it all stem from ancient discoveries.....including energy focusing conduits in certain shapes...such as a pyramid.

Even today we can take our modern science of understanding and see that certain shapes of metals, when combined in certain ways, forms unique abilities or functions...such as that with a mere piece of wire cut to a certain length to resonate at a certain frequency.

It is only a joke to those who refuse to look beyond their own limitations which are self inflicted.

Cone antenna anyone?

RFB


 
Posted : 30/10/2011 6:36 pm
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Don't ever go away.

You hear me?

Your balancing is essential to this site being self analyzing.


 
Posted : 30/10/2011 7:00 pm
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I forgot...the infamous Baghdad battery. Found in the heart of what is known as "The cradle of civilization". The best estimates place this ancient electrical device between 250 BC and 224 AD.

How about the Antikythera mechanism? Estimates place this highly sophisticated device between 150 and 100 BC.

Want something even far more ancient? How about the ancient Chinese star charts dating back as far as 4000 BC.

Google is your friend, don't take my word for it.

RFB


 
Posted : 31/10/2011 10:28 am
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Don't scare me .... you surely aren't one who believes everything you see on the internet must be the truth! Better to use multiple sources, none from the same 'author', and even then it could be the same people using fictitious names.

Personally, I take everything I find on Google or TV with a single grain of salt. IOW, unless I see it from other reliable sources, or experience it myself a number of times in the same way, I'm not going to buy into it wholesale.

Sorry, just had to say that. Otherwise I would need to either fearlessly spread (what's left of) my wild oats, run up huge debts I never have to worry about paying back, or else lock myself in the bathroom this coming year, shuddering in fear, since the world will come to an end because of the Mayan Calendar.

I think we neither give enough credit to past civilizations for being as smart as us, nor enough criticism to believe they were no smarter ... whatever was there might have value, but it didn't save them from annihilation.

It's true, Ben Franklin was surely not the first to 'discover' electricity, but at least his experiments weren't 'hidden', and others such as Michael Faraday, have since been able to expand upon the knowledge.

I always want to encourage experimentation, but right now, I see no reason to believe a pyramid of fencepost rain caps would fare any better than if they were bonded each on top of the other to form a solid ground rod, driven deep into the ground.

... but, hey, you know ... prove me wrong ๐Ÿ˜‰


 
Posted : 31/10/2011 1:54 pm
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"Better to use multiple sources, none from the same 'author', and even then it could be the same people using fictitious names."

That sounds kind of paranoid don't you think?

I can say this..I do not dismiss anything because of the prevailing winds just so happen to be blowing in just one direction all the time. The net is a good place to start hunting down the multiple sources.

Let's see....the public library, encyclopedias, peer reviewed white papers, perhaps even visiting your nearest college and arranging a little pow wow with the professors..and for those still attending...paying attention in school instead of text messaging the person sitting next to you.

Google is just one way to "FIND" what your looking for. Any search engine will do.

Google does not list bogus information sites on the first pages of results. Those appear much much deeper in the results...like page 50 further. After all, Google has a reputation to keep on its own. I doubt anyone would be so willing to use Google at all, or that Google would be the top dog search engine if all they listed were fake sites with fake info. Their crawlers assure that only the best and valid sites are listed at the top, the junk at the bottom.

If you were to Google say..."Baghdad Battery", there are pages after pages after pages of results, most of which contain links to references a dozen times over, and most of those references are to research articles and publications written LONG AGO when there was no internet.

Its like separating the wheat from the chaff. How good are you at that? Don't expect big brother or the WWW to do the leg work for you. You decide what is valid and what is not. The web, and Google, are merely tools to aid in your research.

Again its a matter of how much limitation one puts onto themselves. Ignore everything..or examine everything and sort it out. But if I was to put judgement on the web regarding reliable info...I would first begin by eliminating all the nonsense sites filled with funny bone ohh ahh garbage, then all the useless aluminum foil wearing idiots on youtube, and delete all the useless personal daily life activities on facebook and such.

Like the old saying goes...garbage in...garbage out. So with all the garbage on the web these days...you have to sift through everything with a FTC...Fine Tooth Comb.

"I think we neither give enough credit to past civilizations for being as smart as us, nor enough criticism to believe they were no smarter ... whatever was there might have value, but it didn't save them from annihilation."

And what guarantees us today that our current knowledge or inventions can save modern societies from annihilation? From my research, as well as several hundred credited archeologists, those civilizations vanished due to natural disasters.

If anything destroys modern civilization if it is not a natural disaster, it WILL be our modern technology that destroys us. Nukes anyone??? Hmm.

RFB


 
Posted : 31/10/2011 2:56 pm
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Hi Ken Norris Friday Harbor Tiny Radio! You have re-appeared following your time-out for health reasons. Good to have you back!

Maybe the Mayans just went into business under another name.


 
Posted : 31/10/2011 4:23 pm
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"Maybe the Mayans just went into business under another name."

Perhaps AL-CIA-DA? :p

Ken's point about having multiple sources for info is a valid one. And the web contains plenty.

If only the libraries were open 24/7/365. Wait....they got internet too!

I don't think that having 23 6 inch metal pieces in the shape of pyramids as a ground system would do as well as radials and a few ground rods, but for those who cannot slam a ground rod into their yard or run a bunch of radial wires, may consider this as a viable option.

Instead of reaching for a good ground with depth like that with a ground rod pounded into the dirt, this would give you a wide footprint as well as 23 6 inch points going into the ground, again a wide footprint of ground right under that 3 meter stick.

No different from a metal roof and a 3 meter stick on top of that.

RFB


 
Posted : 31/10/2011 4:59 pm
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I always find it amusing the level of arrogance and unacceptance people have towards ancient levels of knowledge. It is easy for some to dismiss the information handed down from the ancients via stelae, inscriptions or bas reliefs because of suppositions that we are 'more advanced' than our predecessors. Yet, we are still using, as has been mentioned, their calendars, mathematical theorem, forms of criminal and civil law applications and agricultural techniques left behind by the "primitives" who preceeded us. Heck, with all of the technology we have at our disposal today, we cannot create a full scale version of the smallest of the 3 pyramids at the Giza complex. Why is that?

Modern man's arrogance and unwillingness to accept information outside of the accepted academic paradigm is mind numbing. It seems the only exception we make for the acceptance of ancient information relates to how readily we will accept ancient, man-authored religions. It seems we are programmed to accept them without question or research. Faith takes the place of logic (Correct reasoning). Ironically it is this same logic some use to dismiss the notion that the ancients were at times correct as it relates to their levels of knowledge regarding technology, astronomy, even sound wave frequency and its healing effects (A Yale University study confirmed the latter). As much as we have advanced as a species equals how primitive we still are.


 
Posted : 31/10/2011 5:29 pm
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I cannot argue with mpmiss regarding the points made. At most, I can follow up with further examples of modern society's disconnect with critically thought knowledge.

My late wife taught college, and I was present when a student popped in right at the end of class to receive the assignment for the next class. My wife refused to repeat the instructions that had already been given, and emphasized the need to actually attend class. The stupid student said, "I don't need class because I know how to use the internet."

Whatever knowledge base is out there on the net depends on knowing what to look for, which requires previous education. And I must be smart, because a lot of what I try to find on line can't be found. The content of the net has been over-rated. A librarian I know said that if all the pages were ripped out of all the books in the library and strewn on the floor you would have the internet.

And indeed, fundamentalist faith is a substitute for education. Their rocket ship needs a miracle to attain flight.


 
Posted : 31/10/2011 6:20 pm
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Your late wife (R.I.P) was spot on. Very well put, sir.


 
Posted : 31/10/2011 6:25 pm
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Good grief!.. As interesting as it is to discover you must all be avid watchers of Ancient Aliens on the History Channel - might I again inquire if these copper sheets could be of any valid use in a rooftop groundplane?

I'm contemplating going to an ancient Egypt forum to see if per chance they are discussing elevated groundplanes.

By the way, I tend to lean towards the theory that the Giza pyramids were originally some form of power source (longer than long ago).. what's more, there is absolutely nothing about the structures to indicate them as being any kind of tomb as previously supposed (I watch the history channel too!)


 
Posted : 31/10/2011 10:05 pm
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"you must all be avid watchers of Ancient Aliens on the History Channel"

Actually ancient history and archeology are a 2nd hobby of mine..but I do enjoy a good episode of brain food. ๐Ÿ™‚

"I'm contemplating going to an ancient Egypt forum to see if per chance they are discussing elevated groundplanes."

Be careful...they may actually strike a conversation with you about the theory of the cap stone being a part of an energy focusing mechanism. They may suggest that it could be a capacitor hat.

"As much as we have advanced as a species equals how primitive we still are."

Reminds me of what Khan said to Kirk in the TOS episode "Space Seed"..."Oh there has been technological advancement, but how little man himself has changed"

Actually Rich, I am considering the purchase of those copper plates as part of a project for a home made atmospheric condenser to collect water moisture from the air.

Will advise.

"there is absolutely nothing about the structures to indicate them as being any kind of tomb"

Heh...curious isn't it. Anyone remember when they drove that remote controlled vehicle down one of the shafts and it ran into a blockage that had some form of metal in the middle of that obstruction? When I saw that, and while the little car was traveling down that shaft up to that obstruction point, it reminded me of looking down a long run of wave guide connected to a feed horn and vertical polarized element.

The other notable feature was how incredibly smooth that shaft (wave guide) walls were and how symmetrical the entire shaft is along its whole length.

Strange that a burial tomb would need wave guides and capacitor hats and feed horn elements.

Hmm....cap stone capacitor hats, kings chamber with several layers of plates above the chamber, a large notch in the floor with precision cut to that of a laser, radio active sand found in new discovered chambers, the vast network of underground chambers and walk ways that reach well into Cairo, and ground planes.

It is interesting what the results are when you run the numbers on the parameters of the Great Pyramid for finding its resonant frequency if that cap stone was still in place and the foundation was a ground plane.

In fact, the ranges are incredibly wide, like a multi-band ham antenna. Curious...isn't it.

RFB


 
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