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 Rich
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Below is a link to a recent and PUBLIC notice in Radio World  --  which content and access was withheld to non-members of another website by its webmaster.

http://www.radioworld.com/article/fcc-levies-25k-fines-against-california-pirates/300029


 
Posted : 12/12/2016 5:32 pm
 Anonymous
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His website and his rules. Sure it is a "PUBLIC" notice and the public can go to a number of sources to see it. I see no problem. I belong to many closed groups and even a few secret groups on Facebook and if you are not a member you can't see anything on there either. I also belong to two fourms that you have to have a password to even see any content. Whlie I don't agree 100% with his rules, it is his website and he can run it the way he wants.


 
Posted : 13/12/2016 7:32 am
 Anonymous
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I have been reading articles from Radio World for years.
Since high school when i received their printed new paper in the mail back when it was a free publication.

Barry of BBR 1620
WJVS-FM CC


 
Posted : 13/12/2016 11:40 am
 Anonymous
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johnac, it's his website, and yes, he can run it however he wants.  How he runs it, however, is a far cry from how it is represented and advertised publicly.  It really is a private website, with only a few things that the public can see.  Plus, there are a number of people whose IP addresses that have been blocked from doing even that - ex-members who have fallen into disfavor, or others who have criticized his words or actions.  I wouldn't be surprised if the total numbers who meet that criteria exceed the total number of active members on that site.

So if you don't agree 100% with his rules, and you wish to stay a member over there, you probably should keep that quiet.

 


 
Posted : 13/12/2016 1:36 pm
 Anonymous
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I'm sure he has a TAKEDOWN list of stations to turn into the FCC.


 
Posted : 13/12/2016 2:15 pm
 Anonymous
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That "other" website owner who is supposed to be all about strictly legal operation and FM is a no no,  are discussing as we speak about testing and using the EDM transmitter which is not legal at all and operates out of the box not compliant. He's not really practising what he preaches here. At least I can see the forums even though I have a email with yahoo!

 

Mark

 

 


 
Posted : 13/12/2016 3:57 pm
 Anonymous
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Man ya'll paint him to be the radio boogey man.


 
Posted : 13/12/2016 4:09 pm
 Anonymous
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He narced on a friend using multi Decade MS-100 TX's.  Narcs need to be exposed.  But if he goes Pirate could you trust joining his Pirate site when I know of a few better trusted ones that also welcome Legal part 15 too. 

 

Someone who has Elite access to my site (or wishing to earn it) post it on the Elite section of my site.  I want to see the results of the spectrum analyzer.  The NRR is about Clean TX's and exposing junk TX's.


 
Posted : 13/12/2016 4:54 pm
 Anonymous
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Bashing other people or websites doesn't help the hobby.  One more such post in this thread and it will  be moderated.

Neil

 


 
Posted : 13/12/2016 7:54 pm
 Anonymous
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Radio World is still a free printer publication.  I've been getting my issue in the mail every months for decades.  They also have a sister publication -- Radio Engineering, or something like that. I have stacks of them both at home and in my office at work. 

You can go to their website and fill out the form for a free subscription. Howeer you do have to "qualify" by being involved in broadcasting and attesting to your qualifications on the form (e.g. you're a station engineer, programmer, manager, etc.. someone to whom their magazine is actually applicable and someone who might be in charge of buying something advertised...)

TIB


 
Posted : 14/12/2016 2:15 am
 Anonymous
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Mark wrote (comment # 6)  "....the EDM transmitter which is not legal at all and operates out of the box not compliant."

First of all, it is a kit, so it can't operate out of the box.  Second, it has 2 settings, low and high.  On low, it is adjustable from 1 to 10 mW.  

Also note the disclaimer from EDM: 

"Please note:  None of our transmitter kits are FCC certified (No FCC certification number) for so called "Part15" use in the USA and Canada. Many users however operate our kits in a part15 compliant manner by limiting transmission range to around 200'. FCC regulations limit the maximum field strength that you may radiate and not the actual output power.

This does not imply that we claim any kit to be part15 compliant, but can be expected to meet part15 compliance if assembled and used correctly by the end user.


 
Posted : 14/12/2016 4:24 am
 Anonymous
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1mw is still 1000 times the power of BETS-1, which is well above Part 15 field strength levels.

Out of the box, and even 'correctly' assembled, there is no way the EDM is even remotely legal, unless it's output is highly attenuated externally. But you can do that with a 5 watt transmitter as well, so why bother to review it on a Part 15 site?

And how likely is it that even a technically savvy kit builder is going to own a FIM, which is the ONLY way to determine if the transmitter operates legally? That disclaimer is more of a nudge nudge wink wink statement to protect the company more than anything else.


 
Posted : 14/12/2016 6:01 am
 Anonymous
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Artisan:  Good point.  My comment was in response to Mark about Bill's testing the EDM and the claim was made that he was operating illegally (pirate) out of the box. 

You said:  "...how likely is it that even a technically savvy kit builder is going to own a FIM, which is the ONLY way to determine if the transmitter operates legally?"  Because Bill was the subject of the post and allegation, it is only fair to point out that Bill indeed has the equipment to determine if it is legal. 

I understand the EDM can be limited to cover about 200'.  How many watts does it take to exceed the legal requirement?  It must be a lot less than 1 watt.


 
Posted : 14/12/2016 6:19 am
 Anonymous
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... How many watts does it take to exceed the legal requirement?  It must be a lot less than 1 watt.

In free space (no reflectors and no path obstructions), a Z-matched, 1/2-wave, center-fed dipole will generate the 250 uV/m maximum field intensity at a distance of 3 meters permitted by FCC 15.239 when radiating 11.43 nanowatts (0.000 000 011 43 watts).


 
Posted : 14/12/2016 7:35 am
 Anonymous
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YIKES--I can spit further than that!


 
Posted : 14/12/2016 9:12 am
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