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Another Reason not to use Win 10

 
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 wdcx
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The inability to block updates means your station will go off-air everytime the is an update.


 
Posted : 14/09/2015 9:43 am
 Anonymous
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Microsoft has always been pushy, snoopy, grabby.


 
Posted : 14/09/2015 11:03 am
 Anonymous
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Apple isn't far behind.


 
Posted : 14/09/2015 11:18 am
 Anonymous
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Wouldn’t telling your firewall not to let the computer talk to Microsoft servers stop updates?


 
Posted : 14/09/2015 12:44 pm
 Anonymous
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Seems to me someone, somewhere on this very forum posted how to stop the audomatic updates in WIN 10. 

TIB


 
Posted : 14/09/2015 1:19 pm
 Anonymous
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That was me.

Click the message icon near your Windows clock.

Choose ALL SETTINGS icon

Look for update and security

Click that tile.

Windows update will open.

Look for ADVANCED OPTIONS...it looks like a link.

Click that to open the advanced options.

The first choice is CHOOSE HOW UPDATES ARE INSTALLED.

There is a drop down menu below that.

AUTOMATIC (Recommended) is set by default.

Click that drop down menu and choose

NOTIFY TO SCHEDULE RESTART

You're done, Windows update will no longer resart your computer automatically.

Bruce. 


 
Posted : 14/09/2015 1:28 pm
 Anonymous
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Thanks Mr. Bruce.

 


 
Posted : 15/09/2015 3:52 am
 Anonymous
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I worked for Microsoft for a long time.

When I joined (quite a while ago), it was a big company that felt like a small one.  It was aggressive, innovative and fun to work for.  As long as you got the job done, you could do whatever you wanted.  And get rewarded for it.

When I left (again, a while ago), it was a big company that felt like a bigger one.  Even though I had been promoted multiple times within the organization, I was many more layers of management from the top than when I had started.  In other words, bureaucracy had won out over common sense.

The people that I knew in the company that I started with (even the ones really high up in the food chain) would never had condoned some of the 'features' that are in Windows 10 (including a key logger, which in other circumstances, would be illegal and get you some serious jail time).

It's sad, really.  Because there are few other options.  If you think Apple doesn't do some of the same things, then you're deluding yourself.  It's just that Apple is far more proprietary than even Microsoft, and it's more difficult to see under the covers, so to speak.  Linux is viable, particularly if you are technically inclined - it doesn't have the same privacy issues, per say (given that it's mostly open source and presumably multiple bosses keep everybody honest) but there are so many variants, each with their own sets of pluses and minuses.  And incompatibilities.

My solution is to use older versions of Microsoft operating systems.  Server 2003, Vista and Windows 7.  It is a limited time solution, admittedly, and eventually I'll probably move over to some form of Linux or Unix.

I don't need to be an innovator.  I do like new technology, but I LOVE old technology.  Because it tends to work.


 
Posted : 15/09/2015 10:51 am
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... the 'features' that are in Windows 10 (including a key logger, which in other circumstances, would be illegal and get you some serious jail time).  ...

I have 3 PCs in my household using Windows 10, and have de-selected such key logging in all of them -- which was not difficult to do.

A Google search just now showed about 152,000 results relating to this topic:

 disabling the win 10 keylogger

My WIN 10 PCs boot/suspend/hibernate, load programs, and operate faster than when using the WIN 7 and Win 8.1 OSs it replaced.  Even on my wimpy netbook.


 
Posted : 15/09/2015 1:52 pm
 Anonymous
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The point is, you shouldn't have to do this.

The Terms of Service for using Microsoft 10 basically give Microsoft the right to do whatever they want.

And who knows what other 'features' of Windows 10 relating to privacy haven't been discovered yet.  To install Windows 10, you do have to agree to the Terms of Service.  At least Linux is open source, which means that it's a lot more difficult to slip these kinds of 'features' in (there are a lot of eyes looking at the nitty gritty details - that introduces other types of problems, but it's a topic for another day).

I don't usually get up in arms over things like this.  Having worked in the industry for many years, I know that the legal agreements for software are generally pretty open-ended and  favorable to the vendor.  However, Windows 10, at least in my estimation, goes way too far - into the realm of Orwell's 1984 and even beyond.

Perhaps there are performance improvements in Windows 10; I suspect it all depends what you are doing and the application mix on any particular computer.  But at the end of the day, all my computers work just fine with older operating systems.  There's absolutely no reason for me to change right now.  Maybe if a sufficient number of people refuse to upgrade to Windows 10, Microsoft will be forced to take some action on these privacy concerns.


 
Posted : 15/09/2015 2:23 pm
 Anonymous
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... Maybe if a sufficient number of people refuse to upgrade to Windows 10, Microsoft will be forced to take some action on these privacy concerns.

The number of people upgrading to Windows 10 since its release about 6 weeks ago is impressive.  See http://www.winbeta.org/news/there-are-now-over-50-million-people-using-windows-10-worldwide

For my non-touch-screen PCs I don't much like the "modern" interface/tiles and apps of WIN 8/8.1/10, and configured my PCS using WIN 8, 8.1 and 10 to look/feel/operate the same as my other PCs here when using WIN7 and Vista.

For example, with WIN 10 I have no problem using Firefox as the default web browser instead of Edge, and either the old MS Mail or Mozilla Thunderbird as my e-mail client rather than the WIN 10 Mail app.  Also I opted out of the Cloud and One Drive defaults of WIN 10.

I have nothing against touch screens and tiles as I experience and use such on my Android smartphone, except for their relative slowness compared to the Windows OSs on my PCs.


 
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