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Here's an interesting White Paper concerning Part 15 that I had never seen before, so I suspect it's a newly published one although it's not actually dated. What's I particularly like about white papers is that they always include citations, unlike the average articles published in magazines or newspapers which so often carry with them a degree of factual errors and misconceptions.

Anyway, this white paper is a little different. It's prime focus is on the contrast between the Americas unregulated Part 15 Wi-fi vs. Chinas heavily regulated Wi-fi. In China there's really no such thing as "Part 15"...
“If you open the window for fresh air, you have to expect some flies to blow in.” .. "When it comes to the internet, present day China has no toleration for flies. ... where permissionless innovation in internet services is seen as a threat."

I think most anyone would find it an interesting read regardless if they have interest in Part 15 or not, it's rather short in comparison to most white papers, but that's kind of a good thing because it isn't bogged down at all, it's just interesting, and I really encourage you take a couple minutes to read it

The opening paragraphs are displayed below as an overview, click an inverter online version of the whole thing:

No Permission Needed: Unlicensed Spectrum, Wi-Fi, and America’s Competitive Advantage
https://broadbandbreakfast.com/no-permission-needed-unlicensed-spectrum-wi-fi-and-americas-competitive-advantage/

Wi-Fi is a success story because it uses unlicensed spectrum, for which the Wi-Fi provider pays no price and there is no centralized control, allowing for anyone to provide Wi-Fi and for innovation in how that is achieved. It is this foundation in permissionless innovation that has led to Wi-Fi’s success and the creation of immense value to the economy.

In this, we have seen a partial fulfillment of the prediction by genius inventor Nikola Tesla, who said that “when wireless is fully applied, the Earth will be converted into a huge brain, capable of response in every one of its parts.”

.. .. Wi-Fi therefore is an example of the possibilities of “permissionless innovation,” a concept that embraces the “Wild West” of innovation and entrepreneurialism.  ...

Permissionless innovation has been so successful that Americans’ Wi-Fi usage now surpasses the use of exclusive use licensed spectrum.

Wi-Fi “boosted the U.S. economy by $995 billion in 2021 and predicting that the economic value of Wi-Fi will reach $2.4 trillion dollars in 2027, which includes a consumer benefit forecasted to be $514 billion dollars. .... ...


 
Posted : 12/11/2025 8:00 am
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I understand the intent of the article.

But technically, WiFi in the U.S. and Canada is indeed regulated.  All equipment must adhere to Part 15 FCC and RSS ISED standards - you are only allowed up to 1 watt eirp, I believe.  Any more, and you have to be licensed.  Content is not currently regulated, even in Canada.

But I'm probably just quibbling here.


 
Posted : 12/11/2025 10:25 am
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Interesting comparison between the two countries but to be expected the communist country isn't going to as free and open as a non communist country. But China isn't that "communist" any more. 
As for the unregulated parts of the spectrum that wi fi, bluetooth use, that micro-wave area, there should be some regulation and studies to make sure it's safe for it's intended use if someone sticks those white things in their ears, or with a smartphone on their body and on their ear every waking minute of the day, that they are not unknowingly harming themselves with microwaves. You can't expect the companies that make the stuff and just care they don't have to pay for licenses to tell you this is bad. Although in your phones if you go into legal stuff there is mention about this. But if no one reads or cares the company has the disclaimer to protect themselves. At least you have been warned and can make an informed choice and can't hold the corporation responsible for harm it may cause. 


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Posted : 12/11/2025 10:42 am
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Posted by: @artisan-radio
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I understand the intent of the article.

But technically, WiFi in the U.S. and Canada is indeed regulated.  All equipment must adhere to Part 15 FCC and RSS ISED standards - you are only allowed up to 1 watt eirp, I believe.  Any more, and you have to be licensed.  Content is not currently regulated, even in Canada.

But I'm probably just quibbling here.

Well the point isn't the technicalities, it's the permissions. There's no way you can legally broadcast to even just your neighbors in China, it's against the law 

 

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...As for the unregulated parts of the spectrum that wi fi, bluetooth use, that micro-wave area, there should be some regulation and studies to make sure it's safe for it's intended use if someone sticks those white things in their ears, or with a smartphone on their body and on their ear every waking minute of the day, that they are not unknowingly harming themselves with microwaves. ....

You kind of lost me there... What's that got to do with China regulations?

 


 
Posted : 13/11/2025 10:51 am
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