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-------------------------------------------what is the ground conductivity in Yellowstone National park?
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I question if such installations as you describe in "1. Antenna" and "2. Ground system", are compliant with rule 15.219
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I really question the radio sensitivities that are quoted in the response.
Very good portable radios typically have a sensitivity of 5-7uv. My Tecsun, for example, is in that range.
Ordinary portable radios can be 10uv and up. Some 100+uv!
Car radios are typically in the 1-3uv range. Very good ones down to 0.5uv. Poor ones can be just as bad as poor portables (i.e., junk). High end stereo systems such as Macintosh can be in that range as well.
This is according to a study from Europe that I once quoted here (at least 10 years ago, maybe more). I'm using my memory for the ranges, but I think they're pretty accurate.
Radios have only gotten worse over the years, so I would think that now, those estimates overstate current radio sensitivity. I know that I owned aftermarket Alpine and Kenwood radios that had amazing sensitivities back then, the OEM ones in cars these days don't hold a candle to them. Particularly for AM.
@richardpowers Wow, that response from ChatGPT makes almost as complete a discussion on ground conductivity and related issues as could possibly be had!
But ask it these additional questions:
1.) Given the fact that ground radials for a part 15 AM transmitting antenna would cover a relatively small area of earth, can the soil be treated in some way to improve results, eg., chemicals, added moisture ?
2.) For the several possible states of ground quality and given the physical limits of part 15 AM antennas, what are recommended impedances for the RF outputs of transmitters?
I question the response about AM sensitivities also. Most sensitivities for AM are expressed in uV/m corresponding with field strength. The GE super 1 and 2 say better than 65uV/m for 20 db quieting. The best car radios are better than that. A typical high end stereo can be 100 to 500uV/m depending on make as they don't usually concentrate on AM.
FM is usually expressed in uV which is not field strength but a voltage at the input of the tuner, the RF amp. The best high end hi fi receivers are near 1 uV in mono. Cars are around that, maybe less, at least the better ones are. "GOOD" home or portables can be good..near 3 uV, to bad ones worse than 10uV. Cheapy radios much worse than that.
I went to see what Radio Jay Allen had to say about AM radio sensitivity. Interestingly I dont see him talk much about uV ratings and such but on his AM Portables Mega Shootout – 2024 Update he has this to say about selectivity and sensitivity;
"Selectivity: Selectivity is the ability of a radio to separate signals that are close to each other on the dial. Most better radios will separate adjacent signals, (say 610 versus 620 KHz) with no problem unless the desired signal is much weaker than the interfering signal. Since the ferrite rod antennas used in almost all portable AM radios are directional this can be aided by careful aiming if the signals are arriving from different directions. One of the big advances made possible by Digital Signal Processing (DSP) is the inclusion of up to 5 bandwidths even in inexpensive AM radios…this was impossible just a few years ago. You use wider bandwidths when there is no interference for best clarity or crispness, and use narrower bandwidths when you need to block out an interfering signal right next to the one you want to listen to...
....How To Test AM Sensitivity: Although many factors affect reception and overall usability of a radio, sensitivity is without a doubt one of the most important variables in a portable AM set. Nevertheless it is amazing to me how few people seem to understand this relatively simple concept. The most reliable way to perform AM sensitivity tests is in the daytime when signals are weakest and most stable...
...One of the big advances made possible by Digital Signal Processing (DSP) is the inclusion of up to 5 bandwidths even in inexpensive AM radios…this was impossible just a few years ago
I went to Anthropic's Claude, which is supposed e better "for sensitive technical questions", and asked the same question:
