I agree with AM radiolegend. Isn't this considered illegal operation?
Okay I'm going to go out on a limb here and I'm going to call a spade a spade I'm going to tell you a little bit of something about your favorite little company that you are protecting so much called Ibiquity. When I get done shedding the light then you'll see who the real thief really is in all of this.
Looking into the actual code which HD radio uses once it was deconstructed we find that it is stolen from a format known as AAC plus. AAC plus should it sound familiar to you it should because it was a code or codec used by Apple. It was later licensed for Internet radio streaming because it was superior to the MP3 format because you could have a lower bitrate with this format and get the same result as an MP3 with a higher bitrate.
Your favorite little HD radio company decided they were going to put a proprietary rapper on a code they stole from another company which just as you say is illegal then they charged radio stations for the licensing of a code or codec they stoled and people are so stupid as to pay them the high price of licensing to put it in their transmitters and the radio companies had to pay to put it into their radios. Now that this is out a few of the people in my group who discovered the code plan on letting the makers of a a c plus I know exactly what this little company did and hopes to sue them out of existence.
Certain people in my group are out to put an end to digital radio and bring back the C - q u a m AM stereo format. Which by the way did not steal from any other company.
Back in the days of the commodore 64 and the Apple computer remember that the commodore Amiga with its graphic operating environment system which they called geoz at the time was taken from Apple. Apple even accused Microsoft of stealing their idea when Windows was invented.
And then there is the Samsung iPhone fiasco where Samsung was accused I'm stealing some of iPhones technology to come up with their technology Android was accused of stealing and on and on it goes. Companies steal from each other and try to make the code better.
Those that say because it's digital a hobby broadcaster cannot transmit in that format is Ludacris once the code is out and the genie is out of the bottle it cannot be put back in the bottle ever again no matter how you slice it so HD radio has been hacked nothing can be done about it and as I said I will be using it in my transmitter all I have to do is burn the code into the eprom and erase the DRM code and replace it with the code for MA3. Some of us can lay down and cry that the hobby has been destroyed by digital radio and some of us can fight.
I've said it on my Facebook page when I had an infection that almost got to my heart and killed me and while I was in the hospital I made the statement that until my rotting corpse is in the ground there will be nothing that stops my radio station from bringing album-oriented Rock to the masses not digital radio not MA3 not Ibiquity not the NAB not Satan himself will stop me.
I am very dedicated into this craft and I have people in the upper echelon who has donated to my radio station and put a lot of money into it. You just don't know the whole story. I even have very close contacts with some very famous rock artists from Canada did I talk to and who have donated hundreds of dollars to my radio station and believe me as the sun comes up every day they will do whatever it takes to make it happen. if the dude that has the code wants $1,000 for it trust and believe that my associates will see to it that I get the thousand dollars to buy the code. Again I say it nothing will stop album-oriented Rock from becoming the format for true educated adults who appreciate good music.
It was the one driving force that made me fight to get better while in the hospital so you can take it to the bank when I say what I say and how I say it I don't just talk to make noise I mean what I say and I say what I mean and I think I've proven it time and again.
When you say words like stealing you better take a look at the historical events that took place that made digital radio in the first place because the very company you're protecting is the very thief in and of itself that stole the AAC plus code wrapped in our own proprietary format charged a huge fee for it and got away scot-free with murder and to a few of us put a stop to it.
Ibiquity show no longer get away with their lies and deceit while trying to dominate radio ever again because a few of us made fools out of them and put them back in their place which is a stupid thief getting away with murder what a horrible technology that was due for failure in the first place well they a scam radio stations and the general public out of their hard-earned money. So long begone with you and let's go back to regular radio. Otherwise will get your dox post them up for the world to see and make you look like the fool that you really are. Anyone who is fooled by their circus stunts all these years now know the truth that the company is a thief they stole the code known as AAC plus and then try to make money by putting their own wrapper around it to try to disguise it as something else. Shame on them for trying to rip off the general public and radio station owners across the country. So be gone with them I say.
Wow.
So Legacy if you do this how do you find "empty space" and how do you know that you are not causing interference?
Since this didn't exist before no rules were made for it but can't that change?
This is not all happening yet and won't for a long time. Aren't you jumping the gun?
Leg, I've been looking on the web for any reports or court filings backing up your claim that AAC was stolen. I am finding nothing. If you know how to find these links, please share them.
And FWIW, since another forum has been talking about SDR receivers, it should be noted that there is an open-source method to listen to HD radio on your already-paid-for SDR dongle ( https://www.rtl-sdr.com/decoding-and-listening-to-hd-radio-nrsc-5-with-an-rtl-sdr/) that uses the free and open FAAD2 library ( https://www.audiocoding.com/faad2.html).
No patents were harmed in the making of this codec. Its totally free.
Some more info............... https://wikimili.com/en/IBiquity
And then ... boom!
Remember that Digital has to use beeper tones (Analog) to convert to binary (Digital 1's and 0's). So knowing this lets take a look at MA1 or In Band On Channel broadcasting whereas its shared with an analog signal at a lessor power for Digital. You hear the buzz saw noise one channel below and one channel above the analog signal? Sometimes bleeding several empty channels above and below? That is Ibiquity at work with an analog beeper tone signal to make the 1's and 0's to be converted to the sub channel Digital signals.
Now MA3 uses the WHOLE FREQUENCY for example 1640 in MA3 whould have hash for 10KC's the whole frequency will have a LOUD BUZZ which you cannot mistake for an empty frequency unless you don't know Radio and can't tell quiet hiss from this Digital hash.
So even when AM does try and go All Digital I'll be able to find a blank frequency to transmit MA3 with my transmitter. Right now 1640 could be used for MA3.
And NO I'M NOT JUMPING THE GUN I'm not the least bit fooled by the word voluntary because the NAB and Nautel are already ready to pressure stations to make this move because they believe folks with Car Radio's will be the greatest audience since few people listen to Radio in homes. This myth is what will eventually sway all AM and eventually FM stations to go all Digital.
Its a format that is a failure.
As far as reading about this stuff obviously your not a part of the upper Elite folks who way back in 1992 broke the ANI code and forced the phone companies into submission. Even if you got the secret hacker links its written in hacker language. I'll say something in the secret language because I know this language VERY WELL
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We the Elite use this language to stop those who are lamers and narcs so unless you write and read hacker language good luck. And don't even try and join a warez/codes group without credentials proving your not a government informant. Won't happen.
Oh and you'll need to know how to search the dark web too good luck with that because there are plenty of virus traps and hackers who'll once they get your dox your information will be posted on the wall of lamers in secret darknet sites like Death Con.
Just trust and believe when I tell you Ibiquity's dox will soon be known and well known.
Legacy, I responded to your latest post on Micro-broadcasters.
If you know how to with the help of an engineer to get a transmitter to transmit in MA3 good for you as most of us won't. As for knowing the dark web to see how to do illegal things I don't know how or want to know how to get on that.
Things you are talking about...death con?, reading and writing hacker language, implying you know all about understanding this, being part of an elite group involved in illegal activity is not something I will have any conversation about. Or want to know about.
Legacy, you have flown off the handle. In all the time I have known you you have said some things that have been a little ridiculous but this has gone overboard.
All I was saying was that if there is a will there is a way. Everyone says No Way this can happen? Where there is a will there is a way.
I'm not inviting people to join an elite group just letting people know there is such activity out there and not always for the bad. There are "White hats" and "Black Hats" I'm a "White Hat". A "Black Hat" is the people who do things to destroy others in many ways I'm not that person. I just have an open mind.
Reading the public open source information that was linked it even suggests AAC so again I wasn't off and yes there are "Layers" because you have the signal the control code and the codec itself. To "Reverse" instead of decode you encode is also possible. Its not all that crazy.
The language I wrote was so anyone who knows of this activity knows I'm elite and know a little more than I have been credited for. I may not have had the money that is the issue not due to the total lack of knowledge of how things work.
And I've been very helpful when it came to discussing streaming Internet Radio as well as a software I helped a partner to develope called NextKast. So not everything I say is crazy that is not even cool to think this. Yes I do say things to get people to "think for themselves" instead of letting corporate entities think for you. Its why this country is in trouble now.
And remember the story of The Trees by Rush. Rich against the poor. Maples are the poor the oaks are the rich. The story of The Trees goes as far as Radio too.
Those who try hard will encode MA3 and those who'd rather submit will not encode MA3. I'm sure soon it will be available open source just like the HD decoder software is now. But read the whole story at first it was hacked. These dudes discussed in the article worked hard to crack the code. They made it available to the open web for everyone to use hats off to the "White Hats".
Mark to answer your post on MBCF OK yes I give it that its not happening Now but I still want the MA3 encoder to experiment with maybe less than one hr a few days a month. I'll announce that this concludes this portion of our broadcast day and now we'll transmit for 1 hr in MA3. Those who have HD car Radio's or home Radios please give a signal report. Then I'll play Radio Radio by Elvis Costello and switch to MA3 and ride with my engineer friend to see how it sounds on his HD car Radio which he says decodes MA3. We want to see how bad the drop outs are and rather the range is the same or increases or decreases.
I'll try and record it and put it on my Youtube channel too so everyone can see what happens when you transmit MA3 on a part 15 transmitter. Who knows Procaster may be interested if the experiment goes well. If it fails I'll also let you know how crappy it was. But in the name of science I have to know to ease my mind what happens if a part 15 station used MA3 instead of analog. So far there is nothing in the FCC rules preventing me from encoding MA3 so this may be a good thing for part 15 because it allows for such playing around.
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Thanks to all who posted responsibly.
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