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Mark
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Besides the 3 hobby radio forums there's also the 2 on Facebook.
I don't think the Admin. of the ALPB is acting as dictator as he's asking for member input on a name and even the separating of the forum and the ALPB. In fact the new name is the result of input from the few members including myself.

I think only 3 people, myself included, bothered to even give an opinion that was asked for. I disagree with Carl as he said that if no voters turn out as in the case of the ALPB when input is asked for the answer shouldn't be a dictatorship, but what else can you get?

Democracy depends on participation, no participation = dictatorship as then someone just makes the decisions as no one cares anyway.

 


 
Posted : 19/02/2019 8:47 am
 Thelegacy
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Good Point Mark.  The ALPB's Non Activist stance has always been its self made failure in the first place in my opinion.

As time seems to go on fewer and fewer people give a Rat's Fanny what the group does as its pretty much been a social round table talk club and that alone in my opinion.

Jim Henry like myself did state at one point in order to get recognized the ALPB would eventually have to do something more activist related.  We had a chance for a Huge Make It or Break It opportunity offered by A-Train which included getting our name recognized World Wide.  This happened on 2/17/18 on our Teamspeak meeting I remember it quite well.

A-Train, Myself, and even Bob was interested in this amazing opportunity.  But if memory serves me well the subject of Alan Wiener and Brother Stare come up.  A-Train as myself didn't want to associate ourselves with a station that allowed a known child molester on air.  Carl Blair said in a stern non exception voice that the ALPB allowed folks to talk about Pirate Radio in his disgust against A-Train's decision to try and find a Radio Station that didn't associate itself with known unexceptionable acts A differrent Shortwave station was also discussed but few showed any real interest in donations towards this effort.  So the idea was totally scrapped as Bob, Myself, Anthony, Station8 were the only ones who considered actually paying for such a show. Funny how all but one or two members who wanted to do something were also New Radio Revolution activists ready to make a better way for this hobby.   Sad indeed as this could have got our voice to the FCC about how Hobby Broadcasting matters and could helped pave the way towards The New Radio Revolution's petition for a separate service for Micro Broadcasting.

Again the ALPB had already set itself to fail at that point in my opinion but this was not the fault of Bob.  He wanted this I could tell it.  So the wheels of time grind away and an opportunity like that will never knock twice.  A situation of defecate or get off the pot.  Some rather sit on the pot till they get hemorrhoids. (Sorry Bob I kike you a lot but that is how I feel about the ALPB and why its seen its better days) Social gatherings are good don't get me wrong.

I'll still socialize with Johnny C, Bob, and those who want to have a good time talking about Micro Broadcasting on Teamspeak.  But for the last few months we've had little participation and I have even tried to start a phone chat room FREE on the New Radio Revolution's site with no real interest so I left it alone.

For many reasons I do see the hobby slowly rotting and falling and fragmenting.  You have one forum which in my opinion copied The New Radio Revolutions Elite Board idea out of context to try and show they are Elite.  And fear of rouge agents who have an agenda to infiltrate the community for some corporate broadcasting benefit.  It is quite clear this hobby has some very hostile water lurking deep within.  we'll watch cautiously from now on as we don't want to be swept into an evil place.  I just have this awful gut feeling and my spirit guides tell me to watch out.  I believe in metaphysics, practice it and believe in it and they tell me to Watch Out a hostile enemy lurks.


 
Posted : 19/02/2019 3:59 pm
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I have no idea what you're talking about, but as for the re-named forum.. I find it alarming the announcement of a policy being applied that regulatory issues are not to be discussed in the forum.

This strongly implies it is to be a pirate forum.. which is fine if that's the intention, but the problem is that the name "micro broadcaster community"  is commonly associated with part 15 or other legal unlicensed broadcasting, and to give a pirate tolerant forum that name implies a direct association between the two.

The forum name should reflect what it is.. "Micro-Broadcaster" is generally established as a synonym of part 15.. for a pirate tolerant forum to take that name is not only problematic, but deceptive.

I'm a bit concerned about it.


 
Posted : 19/02/2019 6:57 pm
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The ALPB is NOT!!!!! Planning to be Pirate!!!!! They only allowed Freedom Of Speech.  The New Radio Revolution does allow some talk of in only in Elite Section of the board but Does caution those who FM Pirate.  I've KILLED most FM Pirate talk on The Initiative due to the interference issues with Pirate FM!!!!!

The ALPB has ALWAYS allowed Freedom Of expression while reminding others they are not a Pirate site.  There are plenty of those already but some are very misguided and think you can use a cheap Chines Transmitter.  Some require you to have a Veronica, Broadcast Wharehouse, or AM transmitter of good value.  Pirates have always called it Micro Broadcasting.  Every Pirate site I've ever went to has.  The call part 15 pee pee power, yardcaster, or neighbor caster.  Some don't hate part 15 some call it Toy Town.  Just some FYI about Pirate Boards, sites.  I've known them since the BBS days and Commodore 64 days.  There were plenty in Michigan.

The ALPB has always encouraged respect to the FCC and respect to the airwaves due to it is a finite resource that should not be trampled by mega watt junkies who don't care who their jamming.  At the same time some of us want to try and change the rules within reason.  Myself included in that one.  However we want to have a separate microbroadcasting service for citizens to broadcast with a 40 dbuV signal for 2 miles to a Tecsun PL-380 or similar Radio with a dbuV meter.

We are NOT Pirates at the ALPB.  Very few (if any) discussions reflect Pirate Radio but too Pirate RAdio at least FM Pirate Radio is due to the ignorance of C-Quam AM Stereo.  Once that is brought back there will be Less Pirates on FM.  That is why The New Radio Revolution along side of Greg Bushwald of Motorola is going to try and mandate a portion of the AM band C-Quam AM Stereo ONLY!!!!! in order to entice safe broadcasting and a less hostile Radio environment.  Hope this helps.

Troy DJTroy

OF

The Legacy C-Quam AM Stereo 1640, Deltaville, VA.

Website thelegacy.shorturl.com


 
Posted : 20/02/2019 1:40 am
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Choosing a Leader

The greatest weakness at the ALPB has been shortage of competent leadership.

From among today's members my pick for logical leader of the ALPB is Rich Powers.

No one has cared so much for the hobby as Rich Powers.

Just look at his beautifully prepared Part 15 Lab

Part 15 Lab

Check out his carefully researched history of T.I.S. radio, which grows out of part 15 beginnings.

As of today I am the Campaign Chairman of the Elect Rich Powers Committee for ALPB Leader.

Sign up today and promote Rich Powers.


 
Posted : 20/02/2019 2:40 am
RichPowers
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I have no interest in being the leader of the ALPB, nor do I posses the technical knowledge such a position would require.

As for "pee pee power" vs "new radio revolution" or whatever.. My interest lies in enjoying a hobby which is legal and being involved in discussions in that respect. As for CQuam saving AM that seems such a ridiculous notion to me, that I have no interest in it. But we are all free to believe and pursue what compels us.

I'm compelled for my own pursuits to be within the realms of legality, and am not particularly keen about partaking or discussing methods or practices of defying it.


 
Posted : 20/02/2019 4:16 am
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Troy, I'm curious. Your website includes the claim that, "We will soon have a coverage of 1.5-2 miles in all directions from Fishing Bay Road."

Ground conductivity out in Reedville VA has to be stunning, given how damp the land is at all times (everybody else, Google-Map it).  But otherwise, technically, how do you accomplish a two-mile contour and still remain legal?


 
Posted : 20/02/2019 5:04 am
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Sorry, Deltaville.  I had my map reader in the wrong town.


 
Posted : 20/02/2019 5:06 am
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<b>As the agent said it is feasible to cover 1.5-2 miles (So too says Rangemaster).</b>

No where in the rules says your antenna has to be a Vertical antenna.  Check Out Red Horse's coil antenna with HIGH GAIN!! The antenna reaches 3 miles to a Car Radio and 2 miles EVERYDAY to a Tecsun Radio.  We do reach 2 miles to a Kenwood car stereo.  So that in and of itself makes it possible to get the range we want.  Another Good antenna is the antennas used by Hams who lived in small apartments and some of those were way less than 10 feet for 160 meter Ham.  160 meters is Close to AM in fact an Isotron Antenna could work or 160 meter mobile antenna with its coil changed to a different coil.

My engineer knows his stuff we could even go Carrier Current if needed as Deltaville does have bypass caps on its distrobution system.  Can you say Cable AM Radio?  Plug your Radio in and instantly you'll hear The Legacy if you tune to 1640 Khz in Deltaville, VA.

Renting Land to erect a 50-100 Ft tower 1/2 a mile away from the Deltaville Market.  Now our signal gets to the market to a Tecsun PL-380 @ 18-19 dbuV  The idea is to have it fade up to the second C-Quam AM Stereo transmitter once the first one fades.  I'm actually looking into doing exactly what a dude that gets 5 miles legally with his Rangemaster and NO GROUND and see if I can put the transmitter inside the steeple in exchange for some Album Oriented Christian Rock and the minister broadcasting his Gospel on Sunday to the congregation of Deltaville, VA.  Remember Tim in Bovey gets 1 1/4 miles to a pocket Radio (Pocket Radio probably not as good as a Tecsun).  He breaks NO LAWS.  And has CLEARLY stated this on the Facebook Hobby AM&FM broadcasting page.  We are aiming for that market with an Album Rock Quality Signal!

I think a few hours a week in exchange for a good Album Rock station in this town is worth it.  I already play Saint, Neal Morse, Resurrection Band, Messiah Prophet, Stryper so as I told him it won't break Album Rock programming and Deltaville would have a Nice station whereas the Internet stream would be picked up via a Smartphone and rebroadcast to the transmitter via the Sean Cuthbert audio processor to keep Album Rock high standards for audio and have 100% modulation.

Long Live Rock, Long Live those who donate to The Legacy and long live the true goal.


 
Posted : 20/02/2019 6:41 am
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Understanding

Rich Powers, I understand your reluctance to take charge of the ALPB but this statement confuses me: "...nor do I posses the technical knowledge such a position would require."

The only skill needed are the talents you already have. Things like the Teamspeak Server can be provided by someone like Part15Engineer who in fact supplied the Teamspeak Service during Jim Henry's chairmanship.

That brings up the question why Part15Engineer had his server closed down by the Hostile Takeover and his position as Moderator revoked?

By natural succession Part15Engineer should have ascended to the Chairmanship as next-in-line following Jim Henry's death.


 
Posted : 20/02/2019 7:07 am
RichPowers
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Carl, really I really have not the slightest inkling interest in taking charge, and don't even get why you would be suggesting me, there are plenty who would be more suitable.

On the other matter.. it really goes without saying that there is no such thing as getting 5 miles legally with a Rangemaster, but you can certainly exceed even that with an unlegal install of a Rangemaster or Procaster....  As for the NO GROUND claim, again it goes without saying just because you don't have a ground wire attached to the ground leas doesn't mean you have NO GROUND. It well known that the ground path is simply taking another route through the power or audio cabling, so the antenna system is still drastically exceeding 3 meters.


 
Posted : 20/02/2019 8:30 am
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The hostile trying to lock Bob out of his own site ended any chance for that.

If it were not for that act in and of itself technical issues rose when Teamspeak changed its protocol.  Bob had the compatibility to work with the new Android app.

All things considered the hostile acts performed by a kou of few killed the ALPB which was an open opportunity orchestrated well meditated evil plan that ruined the group probably forever.


 
Posted : 20/02/2019 10:35 am
 Carl Blare
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Time for Your Medicine

TheLegacy has the magic of always being wrongly informed: "The hostile trying to lock Bob out of his own site ended any chance for that."

A.)  No such thing ever happened. No one tried to lock Bob out of the website;

B.)  It was never "Bob's website". The ALPB was owned by its members and most of them STILL don't know what actually happened, and the stories Bob is telling don't contain that information, to put it mildly.

But we're not holding a trial here, although the members could gather and find that Bob has been detrimental to the ALPB as outlined in the Charter and expel him based on the procedures that are outlined. If called to testify I will swear an oath and tell what I witnessed.

It is plain stupid to say that a plan was "meditated and orchestrated".

We're thinking of taking up a collection to send you for an education.


 
Posted : 20/02/2019 12:02 pm
ArtisanRadio
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Thelegacy's post is just plain wrong, and goes over the line of ad hominem attacks.  I was going to Unapprove it (and in fact, did for a little while).  Then I saw Carl's rebuttal, which is by and large accurate and factual.  However, it made no sense without the original post being there.  So the offending post is back.

I think that it is time to lock this thread.  It's gotten way off topic, and I don't think that any further purpose will be achieved by letting it go on.


 
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