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Zara has stopped working with Windows 10 and 11 as recent changes to 10 and 11 have prevented Zara from working.

So I now switched to Salamandra. With Johny C's generous help I got it up and running. The latest version I have has compression processing and a equalizer. I won't use the processor as I have the Schlockwood but the 10 band EQ comes in handy. I needed help with saving events and backing up but the general format is like Zara.


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Posted : 13/12/2024 11:06 pm
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Posted : 13/12/2024 11:30 pm
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Salamandra working good. Transition time from track to track works better than Zara as seamlessly goes from one song to another, from station promo/jingle into next song smoothly. Seems default settings are fine. Automatically eliminates silence between tracks for seemless playback. With Zara I had to set overlap to about 3-4 seconds and it helped.  Silence detector works nice. Haven't tried the processor and would be complicated trying to set up attack, release, ratio, etc....and it's not 3 separate compression bands like the Schlockwood with a limiter that also works with the compression. The 10 band EQ comes in handy though,to fine tune the audio. Have tried a few tweaks with that.
But included processing would be useful if you don't have an external processor.
The 10 band EQ is useful to adjust audio to make it sound better on typical small cheap radios that are shrill and tinny to make it a bit more mellow or "full" sounding. Especially dropping out the 1K to 2 or 3K that causes the shrill sound in small radios that make it hard on the ears when volume is a little louder and that mid range, which those small cheap speakers are best at, and is where more of the energy is in typical recordings. The one thing lacking on the Schlockwood is a mid control.


 
Posted : 14/12/2024 10:02 am
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That's interesting. I've been using Zara on a Windows 10 laptop for several years now with no problem. However, the laptop is not connected to the internet and is running an old version of Windows 10. I also have a copy of Windows 2000 lying around, in case I ever need it to run Zara.

Zara runs my segues very smoothly and very tight. However, I set the point at which the next event should trigger for every individual file that plays (song, promo, station ID, etc), by using the ~ symbol. I spent a LOT of time when setting up my station, opening up each track in Adobe Audition, and looking at it to determine a good point at which to trigger the next file. I do the same for each new element I add to the programming. Much work, but worth it.

I had not heard of Salamandra. Thanks for the tip @mark. I may need it one day.


 
Posted : 14/12/2024 7:13 pm
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@rugster Salamandra is a similar format as Zara. Johny C told us about it a while back.
He switched because of the same problems with newer versions of 10 and 11 not able to run it properly anymore. My Broadcast computer is never connected to the internet either, but suddenly after something up with the computer so I gave it a restart and with no internet connection it said updating, don't turn off the computer and I couldn't anyway as I had to let it do it's thing....how I don't know. Then it wasn't working anymore. Reinstalled deleting the other but errors all over the place. Wouldn't save events, and when clicking on the event icon to get the event window it just kept shutting off.
Johny C told me it's an old program not up dated for windows 10 and up and with later issues of 10 and 11 it won't work anymore. Here's Salamandra...

https://github.com/ocarolino/SalamandraRadio/blob/main/Docs/Getting%20Started.md


 
Posted : 14/12/2024 9:02 pm
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@mark I only the AGC on the soft preset and decreased the target level to -3 from -2. It works great for me going into the SW200. Sounds good on my AM station. I don't mess with The compressor because the SW200 has that. You have to play with the EQ to shape the sound you want. I've been using Salamandra for a month or so now. Works awesome.


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Posted : 15/12/2024 12:53 am
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@mark  - thanks for the link to Salamandra. It's possibly only a matter of time before Zara becomes unusable here, so I'll bear this in mind. Might even consider starting another station, using Salamandra, to get familiar with it. Now there's an idea......!


 
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